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Why did LeMond wear these toe-straps in 1989?

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Old 04-07-05 | 09:45 PM
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Are they connected to the pedals or just the shoes?






he also had them at the '89 Worlds. And why is Konyshev wearing toe-clips?





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sweet, he's got curb-feelers on his pedals
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I remember hearing that he liked the feeling of extra security. The strap did not go under the pedal though, just around the sole. Clipless pedals had been introduced around 1985, and I think it took a while for the shoe manufacturers to catch up with using stiffer materials across the uppers of the shoes.
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To make the fit of his Time shoes tighter. Effectively a third strap.
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and Konychev is using clips coz it was way back in '89!
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and Konychev is using clips coz it was way back in '89!
I thought everyone but Kelly had crossed over by then.
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Ain't it amazing that every fat tosser on Beach Rd these days is on a bike that's arguably twice as "good" (advanced) as what these guys are on
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I thought everyone but Kelly had crossed over by then.

Nearly all.


Robert Millar went back to clips and straps in 91 or 92 to get over an injury. Easier on the bod.
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. Easier on the bod.
how so?
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Old 04-07-05 | 10:14 PM
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less foot movement on the upstroke?
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Old 04-07-05 | 10:16 PM
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Ain't it amazing that every fat tosser on Beach Rd these days is on a bike that's arguably twice as "good" (advanced) as what these guys are on
And yet, everyone on this forum would be ***** by these guys riding x-mart specials.

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too right!!
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I have a bunch of bikes that were "state of the art" around 1983 or so. And, one that is "state of the art" for 2005. I am equally slow on all of them. The "marketing" boys would love to convince us that we will become "faster" by buying the latest wonder gadget. But, the fact remains...the speed of the bike is directly related the the speed of the legs that are pushing the pedals. And no amount of money and no amount of technology will ever alter that fact.

Last year, during one or two stages of the Tour, Lance used some brake calipers from the early 1980's and a left shifter that was essentially identical to those used in the '80's. During a couple of stages run over rough roads he used wheels with 32 spokes, not the 18 spoke "wonder wheels" bike dealers enjoy hyping to their customers. Lance wanted to win way too much to pretend that the 2004 stuff was "the best"...the best stuff was twenty years old.
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But, the fact remains...the speed of the bike is directly related the the speed of the legs that are pushing the pedals. And no amount of money and no amount of technology will ever alter that fact.
Steroids, EPO, HGH, etc. unfortunately equate to today's money and technology. But I understand and agree with the spirit of the point.

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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
Last year, during one or two stages of the Tour, Lance used some brake calipers from the early 1980's and a left shifter that was essentially identical to those used in the '80's. During a couple of stages run over rough roads he used wheels with 32 spokes, not the 18 spoke "wonder wheels" bike dealers enjoy hyping to their customers. Lance wanted to win way too much to pretend that the 2004 stuff was "the best"...the best stuff was twenty years old.
There's so many holes in that arguement alanbikehouston I'm not sure where to start. Maybe have a think about that again?
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
Last year, during one or two stages of the Tour, Lance used some brake calipers from the early 1980's and a left shifter that was essentially identical to those used in the '80's. During a couple of stages run over rough roads he used wheels with 32 spokes, not the 18 spoke "wonder wheels" bike dealers enjoy hyping to their customers. Lance wanted to win way too much to pretend that the 2004 stuff was "the best"...the best stuff was twenty years old.
I've got a mate who's new to cycling, and when he saw this picture of Armstrong from '92, he couldn't believe he was on a steel bike with a chunky steel fork

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There's so many holes in that arguement alanbikehouston I'm not sure where to start. Maybe have a think about that again?
No arguments. Just the facts. Lance looked at the 2004 calipers, STI shifters, and 2004 "wonder wheels". And, he decided that for "key" stages, the 1980's designs were superior. And, based on the outcome of the race, Lance seems to have been correct.

At Paris-Roubaix, NONE of the contenders wanted to ride on modern "wonder wheels". They preferred wheels identical to those used twenty years ago...32 and 36 spokes...beefy rims.

Pro's will do everything they can to help sell "ultra-light" crap on behalf of their sponsors...except ride that crap in a tough stage ridden over miles of rough roads. Save the "wonder wheels" for publicity photo shoots, and for time trial and mountain stages (as long as a spare wheel is on the roof of the team car right behind you).

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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
the speed of the bike is directly related the the speed of the legs that are pushing the pedals. And no amount of money and no amount of technology will ever alter that fact.
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with the exception of longer cranks
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Old 04-07-05 | 11:22 PM
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with the exception of longer cranks
an upgrade to 190mm cranks on the cards?
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Old 04-07-05 | 11:30 PM
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an upgrade to 190mm cranks on the cards?
I don't think there available in "normal" brands........180 will do me.

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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
No arguments. Just the facts. Lance looked at the 2004 calipers, STI shifters, and 2004 "wonder wheels". And, he decided that for "key" stages, the 1980's designs were superior. And, based on the outcome of the race, Lance seems to have been correct.

At Paris-Roubaix, NONE of the contenders wanted to ride on modern "wonder wheels". They preferred wheels identical to those used twenty years ago...32 and 36 spokes...beefy rims. Pro's will do everything they can to help sell "ultra-light" crap on behalf of their sponsors...except ride that crap in a key race over rough roads.
Your point is okay in spirit, but should be more specific. Specifically, spoked wheels don't come any stronger than the tried and true 32 and 36 spoke lacing patterns of yesteryear, and when the strongest wheels are needed the design hasn't been significantly improved. However, it would be a stretch to say they are the preferred wheel for all races, and more so that they are superior overall to newer wheels. It would be absolutely ridiculous to say that, actually.
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Why did LeMond wear these toe-straps in 1989?
Because they looked cooler than using duct tape ala "Breaking Away"?
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