Multi-tool help
08-17-15 | 09:16 PM
#27
Fixie Infamous
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Yeah but just imagine how fast you'd be if you both took a **** and left your tools at home.
08-17-15 | 09:33 PM
#29
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Bikes: A steel framed 26" off road tourer from a manufacturer who thinks they are cool. Giant Anthem. Trek 720 Multiroad pub bike. 10 kids bikes all under 20". Assorted waifs and unfinished projects.
The Topeak ones seem OK. I have the Mini 18 that I take touring with me. Cost US$20 on special from somewhere. The important thing is to get a decent one, made of good metal if you are going to use it regularly, so it doesn't wear stuff out or break. I use the 8mm allen key on mine to remove the cranks (with FSA self extracting bolts) from the taper BB when I'm packing the bike. Takes a lot of force and it seems strong. A bit of loctite on the chainbreaker screw is good too, as it comes loose when you are using the other tools.
08-17-15 | 10:02 PM
#30
- Soli Deo Gloria -
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I didn't say anything about the appeal of being barely prepared. Those are your words, not mine. I said most people bring way too much stuff. That's what I said.
There really isn't a need to act childish Nagrom. All I did was express an opinion based on having ridden over 40,000 miles in my life. My post was reasoned and I tried to impart some of the the experience which comes from three decades on the road.
I didn't demean anyone or act like an infant because someone said something I didn't agree with. Doing so belies a lack of confidence and personally, I couldn't care less if you whether you carry a multi tool or a ziplock back with a balogna sandwich in it.
Sometimes we have a moral responsibility to keep our mouth shut if we have nothing positive or constructive to say.
-Tim-
08-17-15 | 10:04 PM
#31
- Soli Deo Gloria -
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08-17-15 | 10:12 PM
#32
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I didn't say anything about the appeal of being barely prepared. Those are your words, not mine. I said most people bring way too much stuff. That's what I said.
There really isn't a need to act childish Nagrom. All I did was express an opinion based on having ridden over 40,000 miles in my life. My post was reasoned and I tried to impart some of the the experience which comes from three decades on the road.
I didn't demean anyone or act like an infant because someone said something I didn't agree with. Doing so belies a lack of confidence and personally, I couldn't care less if you whether you carry a multi tool or a ziplock back with a balogna sandwich in it.
Sometimes we have a moral responsibility to keep our mouth shut if we have nothing positive or constructive to say.
-Tim-
There really isn't a need to act childish Nagrom. All I did was express an opinion based on having ridden over 40,000 miles in my life. My post was reasoned and I tried to impart some of the the experience which comes from three decades on the road.
I didn't demean anyone or act like an infant because someone said something I didn't agree with. Doing so belies a lack of confidence and personally, I couldn't care less if you whether you carry a multi tool or a ziplock back with a balogna sandwich in it.
Sometimes we have a moral responsibility to keep our mouth shut if we have nothing positive or constructive to say.
-Tim-
No one insulted you. You have the thinnest skin I've ever seen.
I base my opinion on 10,000 posts of ssfg snark.
08-18-15 | 07:48 AM
#36
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Bikes: 2018 Rodriguez Custom Fixed Gear, 2017 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2015 Bianchi Pista, 2002 Fuji Robaix
Nor can infants tell the difference between the words negligible and negligent.
-Tim-
08-18-15 | 09:55 PM
#40
Clark W. Griswold
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Can you help me understand? I'm sincere, not trying to challenge but really curious.
Where do you have torx on your bike?
I can't think of a place on the bike where Torx could not be replaced with Allen, or for that matter why a manufacturer would use torx in the first place, but wonder if there is a legitimate need that I have overlooked.
-Tim-
Where do you have torx on your bike?
I can't think of a place on the bike where Torx could not be replaced with Allen, or for that matter why a manufacturer would use torx in the first place, but wonder if there is a legitimate need that I have overlooked.
-Tim-
As far as where I have Torx on my bike: My touring bike has a 3T stem, disc brakes and tubus racks and my fixed gear has a Zipp stem. My only bike not to have T25 bolts is my vintage road bike.
08-19-15 | 10:05 AM
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08-19-15 | 12:45 PM
#43
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I've never needed my multi tool when out riding, but I sure have had a lot of people I'm riding with need to borrow it. Like my buddy who went riding with me after work and after half a mile, he realized he forgot to tighten his stem completely.
08-19-15 | 01:11 PM
#44
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Sounds like your friends aren't prepared for riding?
08-19-15 | 11:43 PM
#49
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Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder
A tool that is a very useful fix gera tool it the Pedros fix gear tool. Hub wrench, lockring spanner and a couple of other functions i have never used. But the wrench and spanner are both first class every day tools. The spanner is a also much better than the Park spanners for the bell shaped 12 tooth lockrings.
I ride the road fixed, flip-flop and both flip the wheel around and change cogs mid-ride often. I carry that Pedros, 6, 5, 4, and 3 mm Allen wrenches, a spoke wrench (sometimes), patchkit, 2 tubes, tire irons and sunscreen. All get used enough to be worth carrying. I am rarely caught short. 6 mm Allen - stem, 5 mm - brakes, stem, 4 mm - WB cages which go on and off frequently, 3 mm - dropout screws which I sometimes set for my smallest cog. Makes setting the chain correctly when I am brain dead from a hard climb easy.) There are other tools that the bike requires, but I have so seldom needed the crankset tools, pedal tools and bearing tools on the road that carrying them isn't worth it. All this fits easily in a small toolbag with room for one more something. (The Pedros tool slips into straps I sewed to the bottom of the bag, secured with a Velcro strap. Makse access fast.)
This has been enough for the two Cycle Oregons this bike has done. (Well, not quite, but the rest travels with the camp gear. I ride in luxury with different handlebar/stem/brake setups for flat and hills. It takes the 6 mm, 5 mm Allens and a 10 mm box wrench to change the setups.)
Ben
I ride the road fixed, flip-flop and both flip the wheel around and change cogs mid-ride often. I carry that Pedros, 6, 5, 4, and 3 mm Allen wrenches, a spoke wrench (sometimes), patchkit, 2 tubes, tire irons and sunscreen. All get used enough to be worth carrying. I am rarely caught short. 6 mm Allen - stem, 5 mm - brakes, stem, 4 mm - WB cages which go on and off frequently, 3 mm - dropout screws which I sometimes set for my smallest cog. Makes setting the chain correctly when I am brain dead from a hard climb easy.) There are other tools that the bike requires, but I have so seldom needed the crankset tools, pedal tools and bearing tools on the road that carrying them isn't worth it. All this fits easily in a small toolbag with room for one more something. (The Pedros tool slips into straps I sewed to the bottom of the bag, secured with a Velcro strap. Makse access fast.)
This has been enough for the two Cycle Oregons this bike has done. (Well, not quite, but the rest travels with the camp gear. I ride in luxury with different handlebar/stem/brake setups for flat and hills. It takes the 6 mm, 5 mm Allens and a 10 mm box wrench to change the setups.)
Ben