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Old 02-05-16 | 10:34 PM
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Tensioner for horizontal dropouts

I am building a univega super strada single speed. I took it for a quick ride tonight to get a feel for any adjustments to the cockpit that would be needed and when I arrived back at home I noticed my wheel had moved forward. I am using a quick release on the rear wheel. What would be the best way to remedy this?
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Old 02-05-16 | 10:39 PM
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Get an internal cam quick release that allows it to clamp the rear wheel tighter or replace the rear wheel axle with a longer solid axle and use track nuts. You cannot use a tensioner with forward facing horizontal dropouts.
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Old 02-05-16 | 10:48 PM
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I'd be getting rid of the quick release altogether. DEFINITELY with a fixed, but I wouldn't run a QR in the rear with a freewheel, either.
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Old 02-05-16 | 10:56 PM
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surly makes a chain tensioner especifically designed for forward facing horizontal drop outs
Works great
I have it on my crosscheck
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Old 02-06-16 | 12:12 AM
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I'd be getting rid of the quick release altogether. DEFINITELY with a fixed, but I wouldn't run a QR in the rear with a freewheel, either.
Ahem.

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Track hubs generally come with solid axles and track nuts. This is because most velodromes have rules requiring this type of wheel attachment. As a result, it is widely believed that quick-release axles are not suitable for fixed-gear use. THIS IS FALSE!

It is my belief that the velodrome rule dates back to long before the invention of the quick-release, when the choices were standard nuts or wing nuts. The protruding "wings" of wing nuts might constitute a hazard in a crash, and I believe that's why the rule was instituted. Since quick-release skewers don't have any sharp projections, that becomes a non-issue in practice. If you are going to use a quick release with a fixed gear, you should make sure to use a good quality enclosed-cam skewer.
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Old 02-06-16 | 08:17 AM
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You can swap out the quick release skewers with bolt on ones pretty easily:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
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Old 02-06-16 | 08:22 AM
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Yep, I know the reasoning behind it for velodrome use. Just my preference. I just don't trust them, and it makes theft easier.
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Originally Posted by nightfly
You can swap out the quick release skewers with bolt on ones pretty easily:

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Those bolted skewers cannot apply anywhere near enough clamping force to secure a rear wheel in a horizontal dropout.
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Originally Posted by AndjaVXC
Yep, I know the reasoning behind it for velodrome use. Just my preference. I just don't trust them, and it makes theft easier.
lock you wheels. Nuts won't stop a dude with a wrench looking to snag wheels, especially dem fixie wheels.
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Oh, I know, and I do. But anything that helps to dissuade even a few of them is good. Quick-release wheels are like blood in the water.
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I'd be getting rid of the quick release altogether. DEFINITELY with a fixed, but I wouldn't run a QR in the rear with a freewheel, either.
There's nothing wrong with using a quick release with horizontal dropouts with or without a fixed gear, as long as it's the traditional, internal cam design. Modern external cam quick releases have considerably less clamping force and should only be used with vertical dropouts,
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Yep, I know the reasoning behind it for velodrome use. Just my preference. I just don't trust them, and it makes theft easier.
But that has nothing to do with the OP's stated problem.
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Old 02-06-16 | 06:30 PM
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It does, because he said his wheel slipped forward. He asked how to remedy this. I suggested what I would do, which might be an option for him.

But ok.
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Old 02-07-16 | 07:35 PM
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Yea I currently have the external cam quick release I will swing by my lbs tomorrow and pick up an internal cam skewer.
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Old 02-07-16 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Surly2698
surly makes a chain tensioner especifically designed for forward facing horizontal drop outs
Works great
I have it on my crosscheck
Are you referring to the tugnut?
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No
Surly makes a chain tensioner called hurdy gurdy
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