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mike.pretzel
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Bikes: GT Sprint(roadie) Nishiki Stony Point(stolen), Mid 80's Huffy Cruiser, '69 Schwinn Collegiate(needs work), Raleigh Technium(In progress fixed gear) Schwinn Mesa new project bike!
"The front brake is a super-light Zero Gravity, tucked behind the fork for better aerodynamics. "
that's sweet!
that's sweet!
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I just get sick when I see all this money and efort on a bike that will, according to the article, "only be ridden once". Like I was listening to a story on NPR about this new Bontrager wheelset that some teams are going to use for climbing stages. They're so light that after one use they're usually damaged beyond repair and are thrown away.
I know its all about speed and crap, but its so damn wasteful.
tim
I know its all about speed and crap, but its so damn wasteful.
tim
#8
Nameless

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From: Dallas, TX
Bikes: SS Road bike (nothing outstanding), Fixed Batavus (1970)
Originally Posted by TimArchy
I just get sick when I see all this money and efort on a bike that will, according to the article, "only be ridden once". Like I was listening to a story on NPR about this new Bontrager wheelset that some teams are going to use for climbing stages. They're so light that after one use they're usually damaged beyond repair and are thrown away.
I know its all about speed and crap, but its so damn wasteful.
tim
I know its all about speed and crap, but its so damn wasteful.
tim
#9
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Originally Posted by TimArchy
They're so light that after one use they're usually damaged beyond repair and are thrown away.
I know its all about speed and crap, but its so damn wasteful.
tim
I know its all about speed and crap, but its so damn wasteful.
tim
Of course, if you come in sixth, when you're expected to win...well, there's disappointment all around.
#10
Originally Posted by TimArchy
I just get sick when I see all this money and efort on a bike that will, according to the article, "only be ridden once". Like I was listening to a story on NPR about this new Bontrager wheelset that some teams are going to use for climbing stages. They're so light that after one use they're usually damaged beyond repair and are thrown away.
I know its all about speed and crap, but its so damn wasteful.
tim
I know its all about speed and crap, but its so damn wasteful.
tim
#14
Originally Posted by TimArchy
I know its all about speed and crap, but its so damn wasteful.
I'd like to see that clacssic grinding athletic endurance put back into stage racing. Sure, it's still hard, but there's something that's very different when your support car has all the supplies you need and should there be any untoward mechanical, they'll swap you a complete bike and fix up whatever just happened.
The man vs. nature aspect is dulled.
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wait... is that a rear brake i see?
#18
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Originally Posted by bostontrevor
That's why I like self-supported races or otherwise limiting the amount of support a rider can receive in a race.
I'd like to see that clacssic grinding athletic endurance put back into stage racing. Sure, it's still hard, but there's something that's very different when your support car has all the supplies you need and should there be any untoward mechanical, they'll swap you a complete bike and fix up whatever just happened.
The man vs. nature aspect is dulled.
I'd like to see that clacssic grinding athletic endurance put back into stage racing. Sure, it's still hard, but there's something that's very different when your support car has all the supplies you need and should there be any untoward mechanical, they'll swap you a complete bike and fix up whatever just happened.
The man vs. nature aspect is dulled.
So if a more talented racer crashes, but because he's poorer and don't have a support car, he drops out, that' 'man vs. nature' I think when every racer has a back up, it levels the playing field, no advantage over another racer except talent and hardwork.
#19
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From: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Jose R
Because if your team leader wins the stage because of these wheels then the advertising benefits far outweigh the costs.
Capitalism destroys the true heart of everything it touches.
tim
#21
Originally Posted by wangster
So if a more talented racer crashes, but because he's poorer and don't have a support car, he drops out, that' 'man vs. nature' I think when every racer has a back up, it levels the playing field, no advantage over another racer except talent and hardwork.
In fact, it sounds like you're arguing against your own point. Allowing support teams doesn't level the playing field one bit. The poorer racer or team still won't be able to compete with the even more massive resources the richest teams can load into their support vehicles.
A self supported race is one in which the rider must account for everything. It's not enough to simply be a strong racer or even a clever racer. They must be able to plan for the whole environment over the entire span of the race.
#22
sorry if someone posted this before on one of the many giro threads that i didn't read, but ... 54x13? jumping jesus.
you know, with all the attention he's getting the sponsors must be in their own sort of capitalist heaven.
so if track racing really is the nascar of the biking world, even though this bike isn't for track racing, imagine the day when everyone's track bike is all stickered up like that ala nascar. i'm talking about at your local velodrome. can you imagine? yikes.
val.
you know, with all the attention he's getting the sponsors must be in their own sort of capitalist heaven.
so if track racing really is the nascar of the biking world, even though this bike isn't for track racing, imagine the day when everyone's track bike is all stickered up like that ala nascar. i'm talking about at your local velodrome. can you imagine? yikes.
val.
#23
Originally Posted by salome
, imagine the day when everyone's track bike is all stickered up like that ala nascar. i'm talking about at your local velodrome. can you imagine? yikes.
val.
val.
#24
cab horn

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From: Toronto
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Originally Posted by bostontrevor
No, no support vehicles.
In fact, it sounds like you're arguing against your own point. Allowing support teams doesn't level the playing field one bit. The poorer racer or team still won't be able to compete with the even more massive resources the richest teams can load into their support vehicles.
A self supported race is one in which the rider must account for everything. It's not enough to simply be a strong racer or even a clever racer. They must be able to plan for the whole environment over the entire span of the race.
In fact, it sounds like you're arguing against your own point. Allowing support teams doesn't level the playing field one bit. The poorer racer or team still won't be able to compete with the even more massive resources the richest teams can load into their support vehicles.
A self supported race is one in which the rider must account for everything. It's not enough to simply be a strong racer or even a clever racer. They must be able to plan for the whole environment over the entire span of the race.
#25
Tour De France Legend from the early years.
In such conditions legends quickly sprang to life. One concerns perhaps the unluckiest of all Tour riders, Eugene Christophe. He was challenging for the lead in the Pyrenees when his fork broke. In those days Desgrange saw the race as a test of man and machine. There were no following cars with extra bikes as there are today. So poor Christophe had to walk 14 km down a mountain to the little village of Sainte Marie-de-Campan where he went to the village blacksmith and beat out a makeshift repair. So strict were the rules that he was fined for having a boy pump the bellows! Under the circumstances his final seventh place at the Paris finish was something of a miracle. (Some idea of the esteem France holds for the Tour can be gained by visiting Ste. Marie-de-Campan. The little stone blacksmith shop where Christophe hammered his fork back into one piece is today a national historic site.)
In such conditions legends quickly sprang to life. One concerns perhaps the unluckiest of all Tour riders, Eugene Christophe. He was challenging for the lead in the Pyrenees when his fork broke. In those days Desgrange saw the race as a test of man and machine. There were no following cars with extra bikes as there are today. So poor Christophe had to walk 14 km down a mountain to the little village of Sainte Marie-de-Campan where he went to the village blacksmith and beat out a makeshift repair. So strict were the rules that he was fined for having a boy pump the bellows! Under the circumstances his final seventh place at the Paris finish was something of a miracle. (Some idea of the esteem France holds for the Tour can be gained by visiting Ste. Marie-de-Campan. The little stone blacksmith shop where Christophe hammered his fork back into one piece is today a national historic site.)




