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Old 08-23-16 | 10:25 AM
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SS freewheel upgrade?

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I feel like i've been starting to get a little burnt out on FG riding, and want to go back to SS for a bit.

I currently have an ACS Crossfire freewheel that probably has about 1000 miles on it or so.

when pushing the bike it catches and rotates the cranks, and it has a good bit of side to side play.

I was just going to move it from my old wheels to my new wheels, but need a $25 tool to do that, so I was just thinking about buying a new freewheel with the normal 4 prong removal system and wanted something a little bit better quality.


I know white industries is the king, but any other brands I should look out for for a high performance bike?

I'm also super tempted by the WI double freewheel, with two cogs on it, but it can't take 1/8th chains.

Preferably 18 or 19t
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Old 08-23-16 | 11:04 AM
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FWIW, I have three WI freewheels, two 17's and a 19. The 19t rotates the cranks when rolling but neither of the 17t ones do. No idea why. All of them have been cleaned and lubed with tri-flow. Also, WI freewheels all have a very small amount of side-to-side play, seems weird, but all three of mine have it. To answer your question, White Industries is the way to go, IMO.

The double-ended ACS freewheel tool is the cats pajamas. It works perfect on ACS, Shimano, and White Industries freewheels and doesn't require a separate wrench or vice to use.
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Old 08-23-16 | 11:06 AM
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yeah, thats kinda where i'm stuck, I could just buy a tool or take it to the shop to get my current freewheel removed, but its actually cheaper to buy a replacement one, so I figured I may just upgrade. ( i already have the 4 pronged tool )

I love my 48/19 ratio, its pretty do everything, but have been thinking about maybe an 18t for a little more speed.
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Also, WI freewheels all have a very small amount of side-to-side play, seems weird, but all three of mine have it.
Bearings are OK? How much wiggle are we talking about here?
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Bearings are OK? How much wiggle are we talking about here?
1mm maybe? not much. All three of mine are the same way. Bearings are all good. Weird, I know.

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Originally Posted by Jixr
yeah, thats kinda where i'm stuck, I could just buy a tool or take it to the shop to get my current freewheel removed, but its actually cheaper to buy a replacement one, so I figured I may just upgrade. ( i already have the 4 pronged tool )

I love my 48/19 ratio, its pretty do everything, but have been thinking about maybe an 18t for a little more speed.
IRD makes a nice sealed bearing freewheel too, but I doubt getting service parts is as easy as with WI.

IRD Single Speed Freewheel
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1mm maybe? not much. All three of mine are the same way. Bearings are all good. Weird, I know.

Thanks. Yeah, seems odd.
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I'm in the same boat. I have the $20 Shimano on right now. Its making a lot of noise! Rode to work this morning and it was all "crunchy" sounding. Me thinks I'm gonna spring for a WI from Retro before the end of the month.

As I understand it, WI are serviceable, right?
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^yep, pretty easily, too.

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Yeah, that's worth $90. I ride almost year 'round and I think the crud is (or has already) destroying the Shimano. If I spend another $10 I get free shipping! I could use another sticker pack to decorate the Kilo...
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Originally Posted by steve-in-kville
Yeah, that's worth $90. I ride almost year 'round and I think the crud is (or has already) destroying the Shimano. If I spend another $10 I get free shipping! I could use another sticker pack to decorate the Kilo...

Yeah, if you ride in really crappy conditions they can't be beat.
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Another vote for WI freewheels. I service them when my rear-tire needs replacing. Super easy. Ride 42x16.
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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet
Bearings are OK? How much wiggle are we talking about here?
To clarify, the play is axial, not radial.
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Originally Posted by 50voltphantom
To clarify, the play is axial, not radial.
You mean side to side, right ? Anyways, I have a 19T WI Eno fw, and the sideplay on mine is negligible. All sealed cartridge bearings have some play in them, since they are not adjustable to prevent binding.
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You mean side to side, right ? Anyways, I have a 19T WI Eno fw, and the sideplay on mine is negligible. All sealed cartridge bearings have some play in them, since they are not adjustable to prevent binding.
I don't think the play is in the bearing cartridge. I think the cog body 'floats' just a little between the driver body and the lockring.
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Freewheel "wobble" is a result of the freewheel body not being perfectly co-axial with the hub. This could either mean the freewheel itself is slightly off-axis, or that the freewheel threads on the hub were cut off-axis. In any case, it's not a functional problem.
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