onelesscar

you make me an ewok village, and i'll f-cking live there! dam right. for ever and ever. it sounds seriously cool.

ryan_c

Yeah, what a poor argument. Ewok village, pot, and piercings? What's to complain about?
Only problem is I would have to get a MTB for riding through the woods - I like my skinny tires.

KrisPistofferson

I'll trade you my Ewok village for your Death Star...

jim-bob

Matt Chester would be glad to make you a nice fixed cyclocross frame. Titanium, even.

redfooj

move across the atlantic. there is a housing co-op accross my street that's as close to one as there can be

andylago

agreed, but it's coming from all sides here. ...some just less conspicuous than others. as for me, i'm sure it's all just a big countdown anyway. in our lifetime? maybe, maybe not--but it's on the way. whether through hyper intelligent overload/technological breakdown, or by the nuke. so i'm just gonna ride my bike and comsume at will, satisfying my ever-increasing pleasure threshold, chronically overstimulated by the technology and bickering that should ultimately bring everything full circle.

bostontrevor

Del is the shiz.

I've seen good hip hop shows and bad. The bad are frankly usually full of white kids like me who aren't a throw-your-hands-in-the-air type. Sorry for killing the vibe, G, that just ain't me. On the other hand, the ones where people spontaneously form a circle and start breaking are the joint (say the Scratch tour).

I also had the pleasure to see KRS-ONE MC an MC battle and of course you can't have Kris without some rapping. He may not be a huge commercial act these days, but he knows how to rock a live show.

I actually met him earlier that night, too. The youth program I work with was having a training for new program coordinators and we'd been visiting another site to see it in action. On the way back, I was all like, "btw, if anyone's looking for something to do tonight, there's an MC battle at X and KRS-ONE is hosting." As we're getting off the van back at the Holiday Inn Express on McGrath Hwy, one of the trainees jabs me in the ribs and is like, "Yo, Trevor, isn't that KRS-ONE?"

Yeah it was. We rushed into that lobby all Splinter Cell style while the Teacher makes a break for the elevator. Fortunately the elevators in that ghetto spot are slow and we successfully ambushed KRS-ONE. It was pretty awesome.

KrisPistofferson

I've been a Del fan since "I Wish My Brother George Was here..." He got his start writing rhymes for his cousin, Ice Cube, who was also awesome back then.

bostontrevor

I didn't realize he was Cube's cousin. Makes sense now, "yeah man, he's my cousin, man. You know. I been trying to have him do like some gangsta sh*. You know. He ain't wid it, man. I guess he like that hankerchief hat wearin m* f*. Yo man, don't pay no attention to him. He kinda weird, ya know."

Ya Lil' Crumbsnatchers

Dude I work with went to highschool with Opio from Hiero.

fixedfiend

My question is : what was man's excuse the hundreds of thousands of years before technology? Technology itself is not evil. It's the lack of morality of the powers weilding it. A hammer is a tool but could also be used as a murder weapon. Depends on who's using it.

adatewithatrain

If you all came to philly this June 16-22 you could attend the multitude of workshops and skillshares that are dedicated to giving alternatives to living a green anarchist lifestyle.
we will also be building bikes(since this is a bike forum).
Courtesy of Under the Pavement Organizing Collective

Under the Pavement, the Beach!
Convergence Against Biotechnology and All Domination of Life
Philadelphia, June 16-21 2005

more info at www.gbug.org

white lobster

Sous le pave, la plage! Great name for a conference.

Abuckeye99

i'm trying to decide if the AP leaning part of me thinks technology is or is not evil. first, i don't believe in evil. i was told the Buddha said there is not good or evil, only useful and not useful. now, i'm not a buddhist either. at least i don't refer to myself as one.
technology does have uses. i wouldn't have had the pleasure of riding my bike, or flying in a plane, or watching carl sagan's tv show without it. sagan was a modernist. he saw the danger we face, but believed in science. i don't know whether he believed in humankind, but he hoped.
i also hope for humankind, but i'm losing my faith that it will be science that save us.

"technology" means something like "expression of skill". i have absolutely no problem with that, as far as it goes. i feel that morality itself is a kind of technology, a uniquely human social technology. i think that with a broad enough perspective, an owl's hearing, or an ant colony's chemical communication network can be regarded as technology. we have technology that allows us to split atoms and splice genes.

so the question becomes, on a long enough time scale, is our technology useful? a fairly good case can be made that we are destroying our planet's capability to support us. and billions of people are unhappy. of course maybe they would have been unhappy with any lifestyle. but at least coca-cola wouldn't have been stealing their water to sell it back to them a few thousand years ago. and our technology isn't really useful to any other species on the planet if they get any consideration in one's book.

anyways, i was referring to agriculture, and here's a good article to read about the issue of the development and spread of agricultural cultures up to and including our current petroleum based agriculture.

The oil we eat: following the food chain back to Iraq - Essay
Harper's Magazine, Feb, 2004 by Richard Manning

https://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...8/ai_112796599

thanks

btw, underneath my pavement there was forest and meadow. i can't help but think of it whenever i'm out in farmland.