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steve-in-kville 02-20-17 04:10 PM

New Drivetrain for the Kilo...
 
Gonna treat myself to some new parts for the Kilo. I have a wheelset picked out from Retro and I really need to upgrade my crankset as well. I read a lot about the SRAM Ominiums, so I am leaning that direction. So which BB will I need to go with that? I wanna do this right the first time...

TejanoTrackie 02-20-17 05:02 PM

Why don't you ask Scrod ? He sells them.

Paging [MENTION=164476]Scrodzilla[/MENTION]

seau grateau 02-20-17 05:09 PM

Omniums come with a BB.

steve-in-kville 02-20-17 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by seau grateau (Post 19391314)
Omniums come with a BB.

Yeah, I see that now.

franswa 02-20-17 05:31 PM

The one that comes with it is garbage. Chris King ftw.

steve-in-kville 02-20-17 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by franswa (Post 19391357)
The one that comes with it is garbage. Chris King ftw.

Oh my. This is why I asked.

Without looking it up in the Big Blue Book, is there a particular size I need?

seau grateau 02-20-17 05:37 PM

I've been using the "garbage" BB that came with mine for almost 2 years with no issue, so you might want to give it a shot before throwing money at it.

Scrodzilla 02-20-17 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by franswa (Post 19391357)
The one that comes with it is garbage. Chris King ftw.

Phil Wood > Chris King.

But yeah, just use the stock BB until it wears out.

Leukybear 02-20-17 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by franswa (Post 19391357)
The one that comes with it is garbage. Chris King ftw.

The BB's supplied with omniums since the launch of the all-black pair are actually much better than the ones that were supplied with the first omniums back when they only came in one color (silver)/ had truvativ (instead of sram) decaling.

I remember distinctly that the bunk gxp bb's coming with them had a transparent sleeve while the better bb's had a black sleeve instead.


When my red blackbox ceramic gxp grenaded itself on a climb on the roadie, I ended up "temporarily" replacing it with a one parted from a new set of omniums while my chris king replacement came in.

What was supposed to be just a week turned into 4 weeks after my CK bb color got backordered and subsequently LBS staff forgetting to call me about it arriving. That was early last year and nearly 3500+ miles later, the same BB is still going strong without any maintenance while the CK that was supposed to replace it is sitting on the shelf.

Scrodzilla 02-20-17 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 19391811)

I remember distinctly that the bunk gxp bb's coming with them had a transparent sleeve while the better bb's had a black sleeve instead.

There is no "better" stock GXP bottom bracket.

The two versions you're describing are literally the same bottom bracket with slightly re-designed aesthetics. Some people have luck with them, others don't.

Leukybear 02-20-17 09:54 PM

Perhaps but it is always plausible that sram changed other factors of production for their stock bb's besides cosmetics/ appearance, such as materials to workmanship, which would help increase the number of people who have better luck.

The reason I even had that stock omnium bb in my parts bin to scavenge for my roadie was because I had bad luck with my first gxp bb which just so happened to have provided the opposite experience of what I am currently experiencing. I was surprised enough to share my experiences here.

SquidPuppet 02-20-17 10:21 PM

Square taper FTW. :)

scoho 02-20-17 10:45 PM

^^ What he said.

seau grateau 02-20-17 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 19391811)
The BB's supplied with omniums since the launch of the all-black pair are actually much better than the ones that were supplied with the first omniums back when they only came in one color (silver)/ had truvativ (instead of sram) decaling.

I remember distinctly that the bunk gxp bb's coming with them had a transparent sleeve while the better bb's had a black sleeve instead.


When my red blackbox ceramic gxp grenaded itself on a climb on the roadie, I ended up "temporarily" replacing it with a one parted from a new set of omniums while my chris king replacement came in.

What was supposed to be just a week turned into 4 weeks after my CK bb color got backordered and subsequently LBS staff forgetting to call me about it arriving. That was early last year and nearly 3500+ miles later, the same BB is still going strong without any maintenance while the CK that was supposed to replace it is sitting on the shelf.

I can't speak to differences with previous iterations but I have also been using the black crankset which came with the black-sleeve BB.

SCK 02-20-17 10:53 PM

Omniums with Phil Wood BB, or Phil Wood Square Taper with Sugino 75s. I have both and enjoy them on my bikes.

Scrodzilla 02-20-17 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 19391866)
Perhaps but it is always plausible that sram changed other factors of production for their stock bb's besides cosmetics/ appearance, such as materials to workmanship, which would help increase the number of people who have better luck.

The reason I even had that stock omnium bb in my parts bin to scavenge for my roadie was because I had bad luck with my first gxp bb which just so happened to have provided the opposite experience of what I am currently experiencing. I was surprised enough to share my experiences here.

The bearings have always been the same. Most people I know who use the current stock BB get less than 1000 miles out of it before it starts making noise.

The Omnium is a great crankset but including a budget BB is how Sram keeps the price below $300.

TejanoTrackie 02-21-17 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 19391866)
Perhaps but it is always plausible that sram changed other factors of production for their stock bb's besides cosmetics/ appearance, such as materials to workmanship, which would help increase the number of people who have better luck.

The reason I even had that stock omnium bb in my parts bin to scavenge for my roadie was because I had bad luck with my first gxp bb which just so happened to have provided the opposite experience of what I am currently experiencing. I was surprised enough to share my experiences here.

A single data point has no statistical significance.

TejanoTrackie 02-21-17 08:39 AM

Also, Sram sucks and Sugino rules. :)

Leukybear 02-21-17 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 19392314)
A single data point has no statistical significance.

As does yours ;)

TejanoTrackie 02-21-17 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 19392824)
As does yours ;)

How much you wanna bet there are more data points that agree with my POV. :lol:

Leukybear 02-21-17 03:21 PM

With how some data points turned out with recent major elections my POV might actually stand a chance. Who knows :p

hairnet 02-21-17 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 19391906)
Square taper FTW. :)

+1
Everyone and their mother has Omniums.

Scrodzilla 02-21-17 05:24 PM

My mom has Grand Mightys.

hairnet 02-21-17 05:25 PM

I want to ride bikez with your mom.

TejanoTrackie 02-21-17 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 19393477)
With how some data points turned out with recent major elections my POV might actually stand a chance. Who knows :p

Alternative facts.


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