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Old 02-20-17 | 04:10 PM
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New Drivetrain for the Kilo...

Gonna treat myself to some new parts for the Kilo. I have a wheelset picked out from Retro and I really need to upgrade my crankset as well. I read a lot about the SRAM Ominiums, so I am leaning that direction. So which BB will I need to go with that? I wanna do this right the first time...
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Omniums come with a BB.
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Omniums come with a BB.
Yeah, I see that now.
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The one that comes with it is garbage. Chris King ftw.
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The one that comes with it is garbage. Chris King ftw.
Oh my. This is why I asked.

Without looking it up in the Big Blue Book, is there a particular size I need?
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I've been using the "garbage" BB that came with mine for almost 2 years with no issue, so you might want to give it a shot before throwing money at it.
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The one that comes with it is garbage. Chris King ftw.
Phil Wood > Chris King.

But yeah, just use the stock BB until it wears out.
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The one that comes with it is garbage. Chris King ftw.
The BB's supplied with omniums since the launch of the all-black pair are actually much better than the ones that were supplied with the first omniums back when they only came in one color (silver)/ had truvativ (instead of sram) decaling.

I remember distinctly that the bunk gxp bb's coming with them had a transparent sleeve while the better bb's had a black sleeve instead.


When my red blackbox ceramic gxp grenaded itself on a climb on the roadie, I ended up "temporarily" replacing it with a one parted from a new set of omniums while my chris king replacement came in.

What was supposed to be just a week turned into 4 weeks after my CK bb color got backordered and subsequently LBS staff forgetting to call me about it arriving. That was early last year and nearly 3500+ miles later, the same BB is still going strong without any maintenance while the CK that was supposed to replace it is sitting on the shelf.
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I remember distinctly that the bunk gxp bb's coming with them had a transparent sleeve while the better bb's had a black sleeve instead.
There is no "better" stock GXP bottom bracket.

The two versions you're describing are literally the same bottom bracket with slightly re-designed aesthetics. Some people have luck with them, others don't.
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Perhaps but it is always plausible that sram changed other factors of production for their stock bb's besides cosmetics/ appearance, such as materials to workmanship, which would help increase the number of people who have better luck.

The reason I even had that stock omnium bb in my parts bin to scavenge for my roadie was because I had bad luck with my first gxp bb which just so happened to have provided the opposite experience of what I am currently experiencing. I was surprised enough to share my experiences here.
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Originally Posted by Leukybear
The BB's supplied with omniums since the launch of the all-black pair are actually much better than the ones that were supplied with the first omniums back when they only came in one color (silver)/ had truvativ (instead of sram) decaling.

I remember distinctly that the bunk gxp bb's coming with them had a transparent sleeve while the better bb's had a black sleeve instead.


When my red blackbox ceramic gxp grenaded itself on a climb on the roadie, I ended up "temporarily" replacing it with a one parted from a new set of omniums while my chris king replacement came in.

What was supposed to be just a week turned into 4 weeks after my CK bb color got backordered and subsequently LBS staff forgetting to call me about it arriving. That was early last year and nearly 3500+ miles later, the same BB is still going strong without any maintenance while the CK that was supposed to replace it is sitting on the shelf.
I can't speak to differences with previous iterations but I have also been using the black crankset which came with the black-sleeve BB.
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Perhaps but it is always plausible that sram changed other factors of production for their stock bb's besides cosmetics/ appearance, such as materials to workmanship, which would help increase the number of people who have better luck.

The reason I even had that stock omnium bb in my parts bin to scavenge for my roadie was because I had bad luck with my first gxp bb which just so happened to have provided the opposite experience of what I am currently experiencing. I was surprised enough to share my experiences here.
The bearings have always been the same. Most people I know who use the current stock BB get less than 1000 miles out of it before it starts making noise.

The Omnium is a great crankset but including a budget BB is how Sram keeps the price below $300.
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Perhaps but it is always plausible that sram changed other factors of production for their stock bb's besides cosmetics/ appearance, such as materials to workmanship, which would help increase the number of people who have better luck.

The reason I even had that stock omnium bb in my parts bin to scavenge for my roadie was because I had bad luck with my first gxp bb which just so happened to have provided the opposite experience of what I am currently experiencing. I was surprised enough to share my experiences here.
A single data point has no statistical significance.
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A single data point has no statistical significance.
As does yours
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Originally Posted by Leukybear
As does yours
How much you wanna bet there are more data points that agree with my POV.
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With how some data points turned out with recent major elections my POV might actually stand a chance. Who knows
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With how some data points turned out with recent major elections my POV might actually stand a chance. Who knows
Alternative facts.
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