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seau grateau 02-23-17 01:34 PM

Putting oil in your pasta water is just wasting oil.

79pmooney 02-23-17 01:55 PM

Wow! Lessons on how I should be cooking and eating. I prepare food as #1, good sustenance for my body. Olive oil is always good, the more the better. The fact that it also minimizes the glue factor if I don't eat all the noodles then and refrigerate them is a plus. I don't make up pasta sauce. The noodles are usually served bento bowl style.

Salt? I put very little salt on my food - again trying for the best sustenance for my body. I learned many years ago that the less salt I eat on an everyday basis, the less salt I sweat. That has several real benefits, all of which help my riding. Less sodium depletion. Less salt in my eyes. In my racing days when I went really low salt, my sweat did not sting my eyes. I also rode really strong when we hit 98 & 98 (degrees and humidity). Riding clothes stay cleaner and a lot more pleasant, esp late on hot rides.

It's good to have grandparents here on the forum to look after me, but I will take some of their advice with that grain of salt. :)

Ben

bonsai171 02-23-17 05:49 PM

lockring
 
LBS is 900 miles away (I recently moved). Should I get a lockring tool and try to tighten it periodically, or can I leave it alone?

Dave

79pmooney 02-23-17 09:15 PM

You should have a lockring tool and cog wrench (chain whip), but in your case, there is no rush. Nothing is going anywhere for quite a while.

If it were me, I'd take off both after the tools came, grease the threads and reassemble. (You may need the 100C heat mentioned above if the shop used Red.)

The Pedros Trixie is a decent lockring tool and good hub nut wrench. (If you ever go to a fancy 12 600th lockring, the Pedros is far easier to use without slipping than a conventional spanner. I put my Park spanner away and use the Trixie under my bike's toolbag every time I use my 12t lockring.) Make sure you have chain that works with your cogs on the cog wrench. 8, 9 and 10 tooth chain will slip on an 1/8" cog.

Ben

Kindaslow 02-23-17 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 19397421)
The Loctite Red 271 product page says it requires 260°C or about 500°F.
Henkel (manufacturer of Loctite) has a blog post which says 550°F.
Either way, pretty much permanent for a bike. The LBS obviously doesn't do many fixed gear bikes.

I'd bring the bike back to the LBS and politely ask them to remove the lockring. If it turns out to be Red 271 then I'd politely ask them to replace my wheel and take it from there.


-Tim-

About 30 years ago, I accidentally used red loctite on a gun part (didn't know any better). They told me to put it in the oven, and I believe it was 350 at the time. Twenty minutes later, no problem at all. Maybe I should have cooked noodles while I was waiting?

JeremyLC 02-23-17 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Kindaslow (Post 19399143)
About 30 years ago, I accidentally used red loctite on a gun part (didn't know any better). They told me to put it in the oven, and I believe it was 350 at the time. Twenty minutes later, no problem at all. Maybe I should have cooked noodles while I was waiting?

Now I'm imagining some maroon tossing a loaded gun into the oven on a cookie sheet...

"What're you making dear?"
.
.
.
"The 9-1-1 dispatcher's night, if this works."

Kindaslow 02-23-17 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by JeremyLC (Post 19399182)
Now I'm imagining some maroon tossing a loaded gun into the oven on a cookie sheet...

"What're you making dear?"
.
.
.
"The 9-1-1 dispatcher's night, if this works."

Don't worry, it was pointed in a safe direction....

SquidPuppet 02-24-17 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by bonsai171 (Post 19398793)
LBS is 900 miles away (I recently moved). Should I get a lockring tool and try to tighten it periodically, or can I leave it alone?

Dave

Curiosity has got me. Where the heck do you live?

bonsai171 02-24-17 10:45 AM

I live in Atlanta now. What I meant was that the bike shop that loctited my lockring is in New Jersey. Fortunately there are bike shops less than 900 miles away :)

Dave

TimothyH 02-24-17 11:53 AM

Oh, I didn't realize it was @bonsai171! Doh!!!

Please reach out. I have the tools. If it is blue Loctite then we can get it off when you need to no problem. I have a spare lockring if you need it.

As @79pmooney said however, there is no rush. If it is on their tight enough then it won't slip. But it should be done at some point. Just let me know.


-Tim-

SquidPuppet 02-24-17 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by bonsai171 (Post 19399940)
I live in Atlanta now. What I meant was that the bike shop that loctited my lockring is in New Jersey. Fortunately there are bike shops less than 900 miles away :)

Dave


OK. I was thinking you lived in a jungle somewhere. :lol: No LBS yet internet. I was :foo:

bonsai171 02-24-17 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 19400171)
Oh, I didn't realize it was @bonsai171! Doh!!!

Please reach out. I have the tools. If it is blue Loctite then we can get it off when you need to no problem. I have a spare lockring if you need it.

As @79pmooney said however, there is no rush. If it is on their tight enough then it won't slip. But it should be done at some point. Just let me know.


-Tim-

Cool, thanks!

Dave

veganbikes 02-24-17 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 19398252)
Wow! Lessons on how I should be cooking and eating. I prepare food as #1, good sustenance for my body. Olive oil is always good, the more the better. The fact that it also minimizes the glue factor if I don't eat all the noodles then and refrigerate them is a plus. I don't make up pasta sauce. The noodles are usually served bento bowl style.

Salt? I put very little salt on my food - again trying for the best sustenance for my body. I learned many years ago that the less salt I eat on an everyday basis, the less salt I sweat. That has several real benefits, all of which help my riding. Less sodium depletion. Less salt in my eyes. In my racing days when I went really low salt, my sweat did not sting my eyes. I also rode really strong when we hit 98 & 98 (degrees and humidity). Riding clothes stay cleaner and a lot more pleasant, esp late on hot rides.

It's good to have grandparents here on the forum to look after me, but I will take some of their advice with that grain of salt. :)

Ben

Olive oil can be a great fat but it can do no good in pasta water. It just sits at the top and then get poured down the drain wasted. It is great to put on pasta once it is cooked however.

Pasta water should be like sea water, it doesn't mean you are eating that much salt but it will properly season the pasta (and may have other effects on the cooking of it) and it won't come out heavily salty at all. Plus when it comes out if you are a salt limiting person you can just avoid it after that and have tastier noodles.

Altimis 02-24-17 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by bonsai171 (Post 19398793)
LBS is 900 miles away (I recently moved). Should I get a lockring tool and try to tighten it periodically, or can I leave it alone?

Dave

That not LBS . . . . :twitchy:


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