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Wow! Lessons on how I should be cooking and eating. I prepare food as #1, good sustenance for my body. Olive oil is always good, the more the better. The fact that it also minimizes the glue factor if I don't eat all the noodles then and refrigerate them is a plus. I don't make up pasta sauce. The noodles are usually served bento bowl style.
Salt? I put very little salt on my food - again trying for the best sustenance for my body. I learned many years ago that the less salt I eat on an everyday basis, the less salt I sweat. That has several real benefits, all of which help my riding. Less sodium depletion. Less salt in my eyes. In my racing days when I went really low salt, my sweat did not sting my eyes. I also rode really strong when we hit 98 & 98 (degrees and humidity). Riding clothes stay cleaner and a lot more pleasant, esp late on hot rides.
It's good to have grandparents here on the forum to look after me, but I will take some of their advice with that grain of salt.
Ben
Salt? I put very little salt on my food - again trying for the best sustenance for my body. I learned many years ago that the less salt I eat on an everyday basis, the less salt I sweat. That has several real benefits, all of which help my riding. Less sodium depletion. Less salt in my eyes. In my racing days when I went really low salt, my sweat did not sting my eyes. I also rode really strong when we hit 98 & 98 (degrees and humidity). Riding clothes stay cleaner and a lot more pleasant, esp late on hot rides.
It's good to have grandparents here on the forum to look after me, but I will take some of their advice with that grain of salt.

Ben
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You should have a lockring tool and cog wrench (chain whip), but in your case, there is no rush. Nothing is going anywhere for quite a while.
If it were me, I'd take off both after the tools came, grease the threads and reassemble. (You may need the 100C heat mentioned above if the shop used Red.)
The Pedros Trixie is a decent lockring tool and good hub nut wrench. (If you ever go to a fancy 12 600th lockring, the Pedros is far easier to use without slipping than a conventional spanner. I put my Park spanner away and use the Trixie under my bike's toolbag every time I use my 12t lockring.) Make sure you have chain that works with your cogs on the cog wrench. 8, 9 and 10 tooth chain will slip on an 1/8" cog.
Ben
If it were me, I'd take off both after the tools came, grease the threads and reassemble. (You may need the 100C heat mentioned above if the shop used Red.)
The Pedros Trixie is a decent lockring tool and good hub nut wrench. (If you ever go to a fancy 12 600th lockring, the Pedros is far easier to use without slipping than a conventional spanner. I put my Park spanner away and use the Trixie under my bike's toolbag every time I use my 12t lockring.) Make sure you have chain that works with your cogs on the cog wrench. 8, 9 and 10 tooth chain will slip on an 1/8" cog.
Ben
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The Loctite Red 271 product page says it requires 260°C or about 500°F.
Henkel (manufacturer of Loctite) has a blog post which says 550°F.
Either way, pretty much permanent for a bike. The LBS obviously doesn't do many fixed gear bikes.
I'd bring the bike back to the LBS and politely ask them to remove the lockring. If it turns out to be Red 271 then I'd politely ask them to replace my wheel and take it from there.
-Tim-
Henkel (manufacturer of Loctite) has a blog post which says 550°F.
Either way, pretty much permanent for a bike. The LBS obviously doesn't do many fixed gear bikes.
I'd bring the bike back to the LBS and politely ask them to remove the lockring. If it turns out to be Red 271 then I'd politely ask them to replace my wheel and take it from there.
-Tim-
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Oh, I didn't realize it was @bonsai171! Doh!!!
Please reach out. I have the tools. If it is blue Loctite then we can get it off when you need to no problem. I have a spare lockring if you need it.
As @79pmooney said however, there is no rush. If it is on their tight enough then it won't slip. But it should be done at some point. Just let me know.
-Tim-
Please reach out. I have the tools. If it is blue Loctite then we can get it off when you need to no problem. I have a spare lockring if you need it.
As @79pmooney said however, there is no rush. If it is on their tight enough then it won't slip. But it should be done at some point. Just let me know.
-Tim-
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Oh, I didn't realize it was @bonsai171! Doh!!!
Please reach out. I have the tools. If it is blue Loctite then we can get it off when you need to no problem. I have a spare lockring if you need it.
As @79pmooney said however, there is no rush. If it is on their tight enough then it won't slip. But it should be done at some point. Just let me know.
-Tim-
Please reach out. I have the tools. If it is blue Loctite then we can get it off when you need to no problem. I have a spare lockring if you need it.
As @79pmooney said however, there is no rush. If it is on their tight enough then it won't slip. But it should be done at some point. Just let me know.
-Tim-
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Wow! Lessons on how I should be cooking and eating. I prepare food as #1, good sustenance for my body. Olive oil is always good, the more the better. The fact that it also minimizes the glue factor if I don't eat all the noodles then and refrigerate them is a plus. I don't make up pasta sauce. The noodles are usually served bento bowl style.
Salt? I put very little salt on my food - again trying for the best sustenance for my body. I learned many years ago that the less salt I eat on an everyday basis, the less salt I sweat. That has several real benefits, all of which help my riding. Less sodium depletion. Less salt in my eyes. In my racing days when I went really low salt, my sweat did not sting my eyes. I also rode really strong when we hit 98 & 98 (degrees and humidity). Riding clothes stay cleaner and a lot more pleasant, esp late on hot rides.
It's good to have grandparents here on the forum to look after me, but I will take some of their advice with that grain of salt.
Ben
Salt? I put very little salt on my food - again trying for the best sustenance for my body. I learned many years ago that the less salt I eat on an everyday basis, the less salt I sweat. That has several real benefits, all of which help my riding. Less sodium depletion. Less salt in my eyes. In my racing days when I went really low salt, my sweat did not sting my eyes. I also rode really strong when we hit 98 & 98 (degrees and humidity). Riding clothes stay cleaner and a lot more pleasant, esp late on hot rides.
It's good to have grandparents here on the forum to look after me, but I will take some of their advice with that grain of salt.

Ben
Pasta water should be like sea water, it doesn't mean you are eating that much salt but it will properly season the pasta (and may have other effects on the cooking of it) and it won't come out heavily salty at all. Plus when it comes out if you are a salt limiting person you can just avoid it after that and have tastier noodles.
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