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scoho 04-09-17 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Philasteve (Post 19499734)
I just bought some new bar tape, I accidentally bought some with adhesive backing. I always use the non adhesive kind, is there any problem I'll encounter with me applying it without pulling the tape backing off? I never tried it this way before.

Seems like you wouldn't be able to stretch the tape properly, and that the backing wouldn't tack correctly to the bar and tape surfaces it wraps around.

TimothyH 04-09-17 06:09 PM

Adhesive makes a mess and is a PITA to clean.

Back in the day tape never came with adhesive. It was just a strip of leather or cork and was wrapped so that it wouldn't come off - overlapped properly, in the direction of pressure from the hands, etc. Millions of riders never had a problem. I see no reason why it wouldn't work for @Philasteve.


-Tim-

SquidPuppet 04-09-17 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 19499880)
Adhesive makes a mess and is a PITA to clean.

For future reference, this stuff makes adhesive residue removal effortless. Won't hurt modern clear coats or powder coat. Great for wiping down chains too.


http://newbuywholesale.ca/1520-thick...227ml-8oz-.jpg

scoho 04-09-17 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 19499880)
Adhesive makes a mess and is a PITA to clean.

Back in the day tape never came with adhesive. It was just a strip of leather or cork and was wrapped so that it wouldn't come off - overlapped properly, in the direction of pressure from the hands, etc. Millions of riders never had a problem. I see no reason why it wouldn't work for @Philasteve.


-Tim-

Right, I wasn't thinking that adhesive was necessary, but rather that the adhesive backing itself would cause trouble (lack of stretchability, too slippery). Maybe it doesn't matter though.

TejanoTrackie 04-09-17 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by scoho (Post 19499919)
Right, I wasn't thinking that adhesive was necessary, but rather that the adhesive backing itself would cause trouble (lack of stretchability, too slippery). Maybe it doesn't matter though.

The backing will simply break up as soon as the tape is stretched, and covers too small an area to affect adhesion.

scoho 04-09-17 07:14 PM

Ah, I was imagining backing that covers the whole width:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....CL._SX522_.jpg

Dunno why I made that assumption in this case. :o

Agree that if it's just a narrow band it shouldn't be a big deal.

TejanoTrackie 04-09-17 07:24 PM

What you are seeing in that image is simply the outer packing plastic to keep the tape from unravelling. The inner adhesive strip is very thin and does not cover the whole width of the tape.

scoho 04-09-17 07:34 PM

Ack, I should be concentrating on work instead of playing on the internet with half (or less) a brain. Lesson learned. :o :twitchy: :(

Carcosa 04-09-17 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by ninjamunky (Post 19499577)
I've already been riding fixed for a couple months now without foot retention and I didn't die in some horrible firery crash.

I don't see what the big deal is. I don't live in a hilly area and my bike has a front brake. I'd just like to be able to ride to the store or the bar without​ having to wear special shoes.

Pedal straps might be a better solution but I hate the way they look.

Do you hate toe clips and straps? Or the thick straps for platform pedals?

Foot retention isn't the key to humanity's survival. Sure makes a fixed gear bike better though. Don't knock it till you try it.

And putting on special shoes to bike is half the fun.

What part of Columbus do you live in?

hardboiled718 04-09-17 10:20 PM

Non adhesive tape always slides around from my experience, especially if it gets wet from riding in the rain. The paper backing will probably rub off/tear during application so just peel it off and let the adhesive do its job. lots of stuff you can use to get the sticky stuff off later without damaging the bars.

Philasteve 04-10-17 12:18 AM

Thanks for the advice everyone, I'm going to just give it a shot without taking it off. I have a feeling when stretching it, it will expose a little bit of the adhesive so we'll see where it gets me.

ninjamunky 04-10-17 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Carcosa (Post 19500298)
Do you hate toe clips and straps? Or the thick straps for platform pedals?

Foot retention isn't the key to humanity's survival. Sure makes a fixed gear bike better though. Don't knock it till you try it.

And putting on special shoes to bike is half the fun.

What part of Columbus do you live in?

I've got clipless pedals on my fixed gear now. It gives more bike control but I didn't feel like it was a huge improvement. On my mountain bike though the difference was night and day. I'll definitely be going clipless only when riding the trails from now on.

I'm in the suburbs, Grove City

steve-in-kville 04-10-17 06:09 PM

How often should I service my drivetrain, like regrease my hubs, soak the chain, etc? Wait until it makes noise? Every so many miles?

Carcosa 04-10-17 08:24 PM

What compares to a FSA SL-K Light crankset? Would Sram Force be a step up or down?

Any BB30 or PF30 crankset suggestions for SSCX?

Unkle Rico 04-10-17 09:31 PM

Depends on how often you use your bike. Normal use i'd go with cleaning the chain every 2 weeks and re-grease hubs etc every 6 months :foo:


Originally Posted by steve-in-kville (Post 19502427)
How often should I service my drivetrain, like regrease my hubs, soak the chain, etc? Wait until it makes noise? Every so many miles?


Dewey Haftu 04-11-17 09:19 PM

Ok, my turn: Who makes a 1" quill stem that has a quill that isn't 42 feet long? I'm short. I ride a 49cm frame. Every quill I can find is longer than my left leg. Help please community.

scoho 04-12-17 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by Dewey Haftu (Post 19505138)
Ok, my turn: Who makes a 1" quill stem that has a quill that isn't 42 feet long? I'm short. I ride a 49cm frame. Every quill I can find is longer than my left leg. Help please community.

Buy any quill stem you like, disassemble, hack as much off the angled part (at a similar angle) as you want, reassemble. Done.

Unkle Rico 04-12-17 07:32 AM

Need some help setting up a SS CX Surly Steamroller.. I need to acquire a 42t(ish) front chainring (130bcd) and brakes that will accommodate 700c-35 tires.. I would pick stuff up from Scrod but he doesn't really stock these kind of items..

Good places to go shopping?

Scottybigs 04-12-17 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Dewey Haftu (Post 19505138)
Ok, my turn: Who makes a 1" quill stem that has a quill that isn't 42 feet long? I'm short. I ride a 49cm frame. Every quill I can find is longer than my left leg. Help please community.

Nitto Technomic stems come in as short as 70mm--how short do you need? Most quill manufacturers go as low as 80mm. I ride with a Soma Sutro stem that's 80mm, works well. Gran Compe has one that's virtually the same--again, 80mm available.

The challenge may be your headtube length, and how tall the stem is above your headset.

If there's a bike co-op in your area, head over there and look for vintage SR stems. I once had one that was 60mm!

SquidPuppet 04-12-17 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by scoho (Post 19505356)
Buy any quill stem you like, disassemble, hack as much off the angled part (at a similar angle) as you want, reassemble. Done.

Yes.

SquidPuppet 04-12-17 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Scottybigs (Post 19505753)
Nitto Technomic stems come in as short as 70mm--how short do you need? Most quill manufacturers go as low as 80mm. I ride with a Soma Sutro stem that's 80mm, works well. Gran Compe has one that's virtually the same--again, 80mm available.

The challenge may be your headtube length, and how tall the stem is above your headset.

If there's a bike co-op in your area, head over there and look for vintage SR stems. I once had one that was 60mm!

He's talking about quill length, not stem length.

wphamilton 04-12-17 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by FBinNY (Post 19497323)
There'should no real guideline for single speed chains. It's simply a question of economics. The chain will run and transmit power up to 3% stretch, which is 6 times the guideline for derailleur chains. At that point you'd replace the chain and sprockets together. .

This is good to know, as I was about to check my FG chain and would have replaced it if it had the 1/8" stretch! I'd put a case around it, oiled it maybe 3 times (once per thousand miles roughly) and have never cleaned it. Since I'm accustomed to leaving chains alone until they complain, and it never has. Am I tempting fate with that?

Unkle Rico 04-12-17 09:16 AM

Why don't you just clean the chain more often? It takes all of 10mins

wphamilton 04-12-17 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Unkle Rico (Post 19505954)
Why don't you just clean the chain more often? It takes all of 10mins

Inside the case it never gets dirty, except for metal dust and whatever gets through in the air. TBH I also wanted to see just well it would last with little or no maintenance.

the sci guy 04-12-17 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Dewey Haftu (Post 19505138)
Ok, my turn: Who makes a 1" quill stem that has a quill that isn't 42 feet long? I'm short. I ride a 49cm frame. Every quill I can find is longer than my left leg. Help please community.

I had the same issue. I have an origin 8 quill that was 180mm tall and that's the shortest they did. I did what was suggested here and took a hacksaw and cut off 2 cm.
Pic:

I tried and tried took find a shorter quill length but came up with nothing.

Unkle Rico 04-12-17 10:02 AM

Any horror stories from ordering from Velomine?

50voltphantom 04-12-17 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Unkle Rico (Post 19505621)
Need some help setting up a SS CX Surly Steamroller.. I need to acquire a 42t(ish) front chainring (130bcd)

eBay, all day long.


Originally Posted by Unkle Rico (Post 19505621)
and brakes that will accommodate 700c-35 tires.. I would pick stuff up from Scrod but he doesn't really stock these kind of items..

Cantis or V's then... Just about anywhere.

IAmSam 04-12-17 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Dewey Haftu (Post 19505138)
Ok, my turn: Who makes a 1" quill stem that has a quill that isn't 42 feet long? I'm short. I ride a 49cm frame. Every quill I can find is longer than my left leg. Help please community.

My bike has a very short headtube, about 10cm not counting headset, and over the years I have gone through quit a few different quills.

I've watched as a couple of guys here posted about successfully taking hacksaws to their stems but for "reasons" I really do not care much for that sort of thing.

In my experience the current reissue Cinelli 1A stem that takes a 26mm handlebar, which by my not-quite-exact measurement is around 130mm long, fits my short headtube about the best of any quill I've tried. Its not quite slammed, but is a "just right" amount of rise above my headset. Full disclosure - I do have about 5mm of spacers between my topnut and upper cup.

Good luck...

Carcosa 04-12-17 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Unkle Rico (Post 19505621)
Need some help setting up a SS CX Surly Steamroller.. I need to acquire a 42t(ish) front chainring (130bcd) and brakes that will accommodate 700c-35 tires.. I would pick stuff up from Scrod but he doesn't really stock these kind of items..

Good places to go shopping?

All-City 314 Messenger Chainring for 1/8" Chains in Tree Fort Bikes Chainrings

I have one of these laying around in a 42. Haven't put it on so I can't say if I like it or not.


Originally Posted by 50voltphantom (Post 19506281)
eBay, all day long.

Cantis or V's then... Just about anywhere.

Steamroller's don't have canti mounts.

50voltphantom 04-12-17 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Carcosa (Post 19506452)
All-City 314 Messenger Chainring for 1/8" Chains in Tree Fort Bikes Chainrings

I have one of these laying around in a 42. Haven't put it on so I can't say if I like it or not.



Steamroller's don't have canti mounts.

I somehow read it as being a cross-check. :foo:

Dia-Compe 610's (old or new) or Paul Racers then. Ask me how I know.


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