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Rivendell releasing new singlespeed frames
For those interested, Rivendell may have some medium-sized single-speed frames available soon:
Originally Posted by Grant Petersen
We're making a single-speed bike for our Tokyo dealer. They're buying enough for us to do it from scratch. There's some tailoring to local preferences, but there's no selling out. We will have a few over here, too, but none for Larry Bird or Shaq O'Neill. We don't HAVE to get any here, but I think we'll bring in about eight or ten, and if your PBH is less than 87 and you can afford $1,200 or so for a lugged roadish single-speed with no provision for derailer and max tire of about 35 and no fendering that....then stay tuned, and when we get samples in we'll show.
https://process.filepicker.io/Aevbsi...npQaKPa1qIHDCB |
Sweet
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I'd buy a Quickbeam in a heartbeat given the means and an opportunity.
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awesome!
I'm currently twiddling my thumbs waiting for my Clem Smith Jr. to arrive. |
And here I thought Grant would snub his nose at fixed gear bikes. Sounds like the folks at Blue Lug have convinced him that it's worth it. Stoked to see what they come up with!
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Originally Posted by Scottybigs
(Post 19539372)
And here I thought Grant would snub his nose at fixed gear bikes.
https://process.filepicker.io/Aevbsi...qWQOODafuR5QmU I'm stoked to see what this new thing is as well... |
But, but, but, but.....
Rivendell bikes have a bad look. And grips with tape is wrong and bad. ;) https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/14...g?v=1487187304 http://7169-presscdn-0-61.pagely.net...-rounder-3.jpg http://theradavist.com/wp-content/up...2-1335x890.jpg http://theradavist.com/wp-content/up...3-1335x890.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...1bb1f8f13a.jpg |
The dropouts (or ends or whatever they're called) on that Quickbeam bike slant upwards towards the back. This makes adjusting the chain tension annoying. I worked on Tyler (Polish made) bikes that had that misfeature. The trick is to sit on the ground behind the bike, put feet on pedals, and pull the bike back towards me while tightening the axle nuts. What advantage does this design offer?
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 19539902)
The dropouts (or ends or whatever they're called) on that Quickbeam bike slant upwards towards the back. This makes adjusting the chain tension annoying. I worked on Tyler (Polish made) bikes that had that misfeature. The trick is to sit on the ground behind the bike, put feet on pedals, and pull the bike back towards me while tightening the axle nuts. What advantage does this design offer?
Like you though, I do wonder what the intended benefit was. |
Originally Posted by SquidPuppet
(Post 19539920)
I think for me those might be an advantage. I'm one of 'Those Guys' that works on his bikes upside-down. They might assist by making the wheel slide (and stay) rearward.
Like you though, I do wonder what the intended benefit was. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 19539902)
The dropouts (or ends or whatever they're called) on that Quickbeam bike slant upwards towards the back. This makes adjusting the chain tension annoying. I worked on Tyler (Polish made) bikes that had that misfeature. The trick is to sit on the ground behind the bike, put feet on pedals, and pull the bike back towards me while tightening the axle nuts. What advantage does this design offer?
The bike came stock with a double up front and a 2-speed freewheel, if I recall correctly, so they figured you'd be moving the wheel a bunch. Beautiful frame, but I decided to just keep riding my old frames. No need for the four-speed setup. |
Originally Posted by SquidPuppet
(Post 19539864)
But, but, but, but.....
Rivendell bikes have a bad look. And grips with tape is wrong and bad. ;) Nice try. But IMHO tape only and no grips is the best looking. Would ride anything on this page. |
Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
(Post 19539942)
The advantage is that you don't have to adjust the rear brake block position as you move the wheel in the dropouts. Look closely and you'll see that the dropouts are perpendicular to the seat stays, same as the mounts for the brakes.
OK, riddle me this Mr. Engineer. Since the chain is pulling the cog from the top during acceleration, would that dropout also help (a little) prevent the axle from sliding forward. Or would a rearward-down-sloping dropout be better? Also, it seems like moving the axle any significant amount in such strongly angled slot would alter the head tube angle. It "seems" like it could be enough to feel it in the steering and/or stability. |
Originally Posted by Carcosa
(Post 19539972)
Nice try. |
Originally Posted by SquidPuppet
(Post 19539987)
Ah ha! That makes perfect sense.
OK, riddle me this Mr. Engineer. Since the chain is pulling the cog from the top under acceleration, would that dropout also help (a little) prevent the axle from sliding forward. Or would a rearward-down-sloping dropout be better? Also, it seems like moving the axle any significant amount in such strongly angled slot would alter the head tube angle. It "seems" like it could be enough to feel it in the steering and/or stability. As to your second question, it seems to me that the change in headtube angle would be relatively small, but frankly I'm too lazy to give it a lot of thought. Sincerely, The Riddler |
Originally Posted by DiegoFrogs
(Post 19539952)
The bike came stock with a double up front and a 2-speed freewheel, if I recall correctly, so they figured you'd be moving the wheel a bunch.
https://process.filepicker.io/Aevbsi...SkRXWW8Pd6DUtI It is neat to get an education on the history of the frame (I don't remember when it was being sold).
Originally Posted by SquidPuppet
Rivendell bikes have a bad look. And grips with tape is wrong and bad.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
(Post 19540017)
the wheel will move regardless on the precise angle of the dropouts, since they are predominantly horizontal.
As to your second question, it seems to me that the change in headtube angle would be relatively small, but frankly I'l too lazy to give it a lot of thought. Sincerely, The Riddler :p |
One thing I don't get - track ends? Why? If they were turned around so they opened to the front (or to the front and down, a sort of "L" shape) pulling the wheel is so much easier. With a chain peg you can pull the wheel, flip it around and remount to change gear ratios is less than 2 minutes using a Pedro's Trixie and never touch the chain.
Track ends are fine on the velodrome where dirt must be checked at the door. But on the road they suck. Yet every road fix gear or single speed I see purpose built for production uses track ends. Grant Peterson could have any bike he wanted made. Why perpetrate this bad idea? Ben (a guy who spent big money out of his own pocket to have a true road fix gear with a proper dropouts that are a joy to use - and handles 12 to 24 teeth on the same chain and allows the tire to near hit the seattube with the 24 and still be able to pull the wheel cleanly. I rode around Crater Lake just using a 12 tooth and 23. 6 wheel flips. Easy. Clean hands.) |
Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
(Post 19539942)
The advantage is that you don't have to adjust the rear brake block position as you move the wheel in the dropouts. Look closely and you'll see that the dropouts are perpendicular to the seat stays, same as the mounts for the brakes.
Andrew, I have an easy routine for mounting the rear wheel and dealing with the chain. I stand behind the bike (no way I am going to sit, what with doing this out on the road on a regular basis), wrap my left little fingers around the left chainstay, index and middle around the tire and just pull the tire back and hard against the left chainstay. Tighten the right hub nut with the wrench, handle down so it is pulling back. Straighten the wheel, tighten the left hub nut and check chain tension. I almost always have exactly the slack I want. (I never run the chain tight.) Ben |
Originally Posted by ethet
(Post 19540034)
That is interesting... The only Quickbeams I've seen have been fixed (above) or single-speed (and these are Rivendell employees'), for example:
https://process.filepicker.io/Aevbsi...SkRXWW8Pd6DUtI It is neat to get an education on the history of the frame (I don't remember when it was being sold). You are absolutely, undeniably, correct. These fools with grips and tape on literally all of their bikes should be shunned from polite society. ;) |
Maybe the angled track end has something to do with tire clearance? To combat the rise in height a fatter tire would add?
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
(Post 19540094)
One thing I don't get - track ends? Why? If they were turned around so they opened to the front (or to the front and down, a sort of "L" shape) pulling the wheel is so much easier. With a chain peg you can pull the wheel, flip it around and remount to change gear ratios is less than 2 minutes using a Pedro's Trixie and never touch the chain.
Track ends are fine on the velodrome where dirt must be checked at the door. But on the road they suck. Yet every road fix gear or single speed I see purpose built for production uses track ends. Grant Peterson could have any bike he wanted made. Why perpetrate this bad idea? http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/quickbeam/index.html 2. Yeah, I think more road fixies should have horizontal forward dropouts, there aren't that many around if you're looking for new frames. Got lucky with this one - I think it was only offered one year. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/lO...=w1024-h768-no |
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Originally Posted by Wspsux
(Post 19541854)
Maybe the angled track end has something to do with tire clearance? To combat the rise in height a fatter tire would add?
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
(Post 19542136)
And good call, [MENTION=168526]TejanoTrackie[/MENTION]... |
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