Kilo tt
08-30-18 | 08:34 PM
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Kilo tt
Can anyone share their experience with riding a Kilo tt? I'm particularly interested in the ride quality, but looking at the geometry it looks pretty relaxed too, so I'm wondering about how comfortable the positioning is too as far as saddle to bar drop. Thanks,
Dave
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08-30-18 | 09:58 PM
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I've never ridden one, but studied their geometry recently. They have a level top tube, so seat vs. bar height will be pretty neutral. Not as comfy as an endurance road bike, not nearly as aggressive as a lo-pro. It will depend mostly on seat post extension (which derives from the frame size relative to your inseam measurement), and steering column length/number of spacers under the stem (or quill insertion on the threaded fork models). The frames are slightly over-square, meaning their top tubes are a little longer than their seat tubes. This generally means you should select a slightly smaller frame than you would in a square or under-square design--you can easily slide the seat tube out an extra cm or two; the alternative is getting too stretched out, which can only be corrected through a shorter stem or a bar with less reach. The ST and HT angles are a bit steep: 74-75 degrees, depending on size. Compare this to about 73 for a typical classic road bike, or as little as 70 for a touring bike. Steep angles = stiff ride and tight handling, all other factors being equal.
08-31-18 | 02:14 AM
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From: Lyon, France
Bikes: Custom Mercier - Velo'v - Peugeot FG conversion
As a rider of a Kilo for nearly 11 years now, my own experiences are the following:
- I had to raise the handlebars quite a bit to avoid feeling too hunched over.
- once you’ve made all the necessary adjustments it’s decently comfy. Buuttt...
- I personally wouldn’t do any touring in this bike (I have a converted mountain bike for very long trips).
- I had to raise the handlebars quite a bit to avoid feeling too hunched over.
- once you’ve made all the necessary adjustments it’s decently comfy. Buuttt...
- I personally wouldn’t do any touring in this bike (I have a converted mountain bike for very long trips).
08-31-18 | 10:02 AM
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I've never ridden one, but studied their geometry recently. They have a level top tube, so seat vs. bar height will be pretty neutral. Not as comfy as an endurance road bike, not nearly as aggressive as a lo-pro. It will depend mostly on seat post extension (which derives from the frame size relative to your inseam measurement), and steering column length/number of spacers under the stem (or quill insertion on the threaded fork models). The frames are slightly over-square, meaning their top tubes are a little longer than their seat tubes. This generally means you should select a slightly smaller frame than you would in a square or under-square design--you can easily slide the seat tube out an extra cm or two; the alternative is getting too stretched out, which can only be corrected through a shorter stem or a bar with less reach. The ST and HT angles are a bit steep: 74-75 degrees, depending on size. Compare this to about 73 for a typical classic road bike, or as little as 70 for a touring bike. Steep angles = stiff ride and tight handling, all other factors being equal.
Looks like Wabi is the way to go. They have 73 degree headtube and seat tube angles.
08-31-18 | 11:16 AM
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Bikes: stumpy,bianchi,Wabi classic
If you get near Houston, one of the bikes I own is a T T in a 55.You can ride all you want during your stay here.My other bikes are Wabi in a 58 and A Bianchi San Jose in a 55.
The Kilo is very fast and handles really well. Kinda twitchy but thats on me😃skinny tires too ,25's i think.
The Kilo is very fast and handles really well. Kinda twitchy but thats on me😃skinny tires too ,25's i think.
08-31-18 | 08:27 PM
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Clark W. Griswold
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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Did someone say Pound Sign: KiloTT? Probably the best bike ever so long as you don't look at anything else ; )
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