Favorite tires?
09-05-18 | 09:33 AM
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09-05-18 | 10:56 AM
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there is no scenario in which you could convince me that using 25’s on the street makes any sense, so unless we’re talking a track bike on the velodrome, it’s a hard no. If we are talking on the velodrome, then I could just as easily say why not 23? 20? I don’t want to ride on 100+ psi, I don’t want pinch flats and I don’t need my bones shaken out of place. On the street, 28 is the smallest I’d go. Right now I’m riding a set of clement strada lgg 32’s. I also have a set of g-one speeds in both 30 & 35. Of course, if you’re riding a proper track frame with scant clearance for anything more than 23/25, then obviously you ride what you ride and it’s all good.
09-05-18 | 11:08 AM
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Vittoria Corsa G+ - 25mm or 28mm - two tires and two latex tubes - $89.99
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09-05-18 | 04:57 PM
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If you like them wide, good for you. LOTS of serious racers have decided 25mm is the sweet spot--the best compromise between light weight and a good ride.
As for me, I sometimes ride my track bike on 23mm Vittoria Rubino G+ at 120+ PSI. It has a very stiff 7075 alloy frame, and very stiff 48mm tall carbon rims. I'm not riding on the track, but 100% on road. As expected, I feel every bump and crack. And I'm fine with that. The bike handles like a scalpel. It does not shake my bones loose, but makes me feel very connected to the road. If I want cushy, I have other bikes for that.
To answer the original question, I think Conti Gatorskins are my favorite. I know lots of guys don't like how they feel, but on my bikes that have them mounted, I don't push them hard enough to notice much difference. I can notice more difference in my seat selection or in how much pressure I add than in these tires vs. something more supple. Reason I love them is they're tough--very puncture resistant, as advertised.
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09-05-18 | 05:57 PM
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How about if you want to fit fenders, and the clearance in your frame is already tight. You might not be able to fit anything bigger than 25mm.
If you like them wide, good for you. LOTS of serious racers have decided 25mm is the sweet spot--the best compromise between light weight and a good ride.
As for me, I sometimes ride my track bike on 23mm Vittoria Rubino G+ at 120+ PSI. It has a very stiff 7075 alloy frame, and very stiff 48mm tall carbon rims. I'm not riding on the track, but 100% on road. As expected, I feel every bump and crack. And I'm fine with that. The bike handles like a scalpel. It does not shake my bones loose, but makes me feel very connected to the road. If I want cushy, I have other bikes for that.
If you like them wide, good for you. LOTS of serious racers have decided 25mm is the sweet spot--the best compromise between light weight and a good ride.
As for me, I sometimes ride my track bike on 23mm Vittoria Rubino G+ at 120+ PSI. It has a very stiff 7075 alloy frame, and very stiff 48mm tall carbon rims. I'm not riding on the track, but 100% on road. As expected, I feel every bump and crack. And I'm fine with that. The bike handles like a scalpel. It does not shake my bones loose, but makes me feel very connected to the road. If I want cushy, I have other bikes for that.
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09-05-18 | 07:07 PM
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seamuis, relax. Take a deep breath. Okay, mate? I'm not offended, and I wasn't trying to say you're wrong.
You gave your opinion, and the reason you have it. Now I've done the same. That's how web forums work--it's a discussion, not a "let's see who can win by giving the most convincing argument." I take that back. Often it does become that. But I'm just trying to add to the conversation. If my response was just a bunch of personal nonsense, then so is 80% of everything ever written on BikeForums.
The fender situation was a response to your claim that "there's no scenario in which you could convince me..." I thought I'd try. But I guess your claim stands. You, for one, will never ride a tire narrower than 28. Duly noted.
You gave your opinion, and the reason you have it. Now I've done the same. That's how web forums work--it's a discussion, not a "let's see who can win by giving the most convincing argument." I take that back. Often it does become that. But I'm just trying to add to the conversation. If my response was just a bunch of personal nonsense, then so is 80% of everything ever written on BikeForums.
The fender situation was a response to your claim that "there's no scenario in which you could convince me..." I thought I'd try. But I guess your claim stands. You, for one, will never ride a tire narrower than 28. Duly noted.
09-06-18 | 01:26 AM
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seamuis, relax. Take a deep breath. Okay, mate? I'm not offended, and I wasn't trying to say you're wrong.
You gave your opinion, and the reason you have it. Now I've done the same. That's how web forums work--it's a discussion, not a "let's see who can win by giving the most convincing argument." I take that back. Often it does become that. But I'm just trying to add to the conversation. If my response was just a bunch of personal nonsense, then so is 80% of everything ever written on BikeForums.
The fender situation was a response to your claim that "there's no scenario in which you could convince me..." I thought I'd try. But I guess your claim stands. You, for one, will never ride a tire narrower than 28. Duly noted.
You gave your opinion, and the reason you have it. Now I've done the same. That's how web forums work--it's a discussion, not a "let's see who can win by giving the most convincing argument." I take that back. Often it does become that. But I'm just trying to add to the conversation. If my response was just a bunch of personal nonsense, then so is 80% of everything ever written on BikeForums.
The fender situation was a response to your claim that "there's no scenario in which you could convince me..." I thought I'd try. But I guess your claim stands. You, for one, will never ride a tire narrower than 28. Duly noted.
and for the sake of adding more positively to the thread, if I were talking strictly 25mm tyres, which of course are racing tyres, my best recommendation would be the Schwalbe Pro One or the Pirelli PZero Velo or Velo 4S. I’ve ridden the 28mm Zero and it’s a fantastic tyre.
Last edited by seamuis; 09-06-18 at 01:34 AM.
09-06-18 | 06:27 AM
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My bareknuckle sadly can’t fit 28s in the rear, it rubbed so I ride 25s on that bike. Not a huge deal but I’d prefer 28s. I think that’s the future, data shows it’s rolling resistance is lower and it eats up road bumps better. Lot of bike frames out there simply can’t fit them, but I think that’s changing, least in the road cycling world, don’t know about track bikes.
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09-06-18 | 08:03 AM
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From their website...
Vittoria recently tweaked the entire tire lineup and changed construction on the various models. The previous iteration of the 25 mm Corsa G+ were 256 grams by my scale.
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09-06-18 | 05:52 PM
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I’m always relaxed. Stress will give you a stroke. I never intended to back up my position, because it shouldn’t be necessary. I was asked why and I gladly answered. But by your own admission you were trying to convince me of something and that was obvious, so of course I’m going to clap back. As far as forums go, yea I agree. Problem is that you injected your personal nonsense where it wasn’t needed and for the wrong reason. I’m an experienced rider and mechanic, so I have my reasons. If you had asked me to elaborate more on my position, my response would have been different. You didn’t though. So wether you liked my perceived tone or not is irrelevant, because my positions stand. Anyhow, I’d rather not continue to derail the thread, so cheers mate.
I'll add one more tire recommendation, with a big caveat. The Continental Ultra Sport is cheap. It's reasonably light, and it gives a nice ride. But it has very little puncture protection. I got a lot of flats before I stopped using them. If a guy wants some nice tires but doesn't have much money, and he doesn't ride in an area with lots of thorns or other sharp debris, Ultra Sport might be a good choice.
09-06-18 | 10:01 PM
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That's a nifty chart, but something doesn't make sense. You say they claim the Corsa is 40 grams lighter than Corsa Control. Yet, on the chart they appear to be identical in weight. It shows the Corsa being better for speed, but in every other area inferior or at best identical to the Control.
09-07-18 | 08:39 PM
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That's a nifty chart, but something doesn't make sense. You say they claim the Corsa is 40 grams lighter than Corsa Control. Yet, on the chart they appear to be identical in weight. It shows the Corsa being better for speed, but in every other area inferior or at best identical to the Control.
