Everyday Carry
10-31-18 | 03:04 PM
#26
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However, please forgive me for pointing that for the problem you described you didn't need any multi-tool. A 5mm hex key takes up close no room, and since you brought up weight - weighs practically nothing...and costs about 50¢ at a neighborhood hardware store. Plus they come in long lengths too (if it will fit in your bag) for anyone worried about getting enough leverage...
Yes, carry and use whatever makes you happy - I just posted what has been working for me...
10-31-18 | 03:37 PM
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10-31-18 | 03:48 PM
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When your bike also has 3mm, 4mm, 6mm, and 8mm bolts, there are a lot of problems a 5mm won't solve. My mutlitool also has flat/philips screwdrivers and spoke wrench, all of which I've used on the road at one point or another.
10-31-18 | 04:00 PM
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Yes, carry and use whatever makes you happy - I just posted what has been working for me...
11-01-18 | 04:31 PM
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Clark W. Griswold
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Swap all of your bolts to 5mm, use trip spoke wheels and buy ScRAM derailleurs (and then replace the bolts with 5mm). Problem solved if it were possible to swap all bolts with 5mm compatible stuff and trispokes and ScRAM didn't generally kind of stink to a point.
11-01-18 | 05:28 PM
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this is a good point, and it’s exactly the argument I make when people tell me they ‘need’ an overpriced multi tool. You can literally replace the bolts. I did that on my fender mounting bolts. I get that it may not be possible in every case, but you can certainly replace some, with a quick trip to a hardware store. I promise you’ll spend less money on a few replacement bolts than a multi tool. I mean, to each their own, but if you really want to carry as little as possible AND make any roadside repairs or adjustments as quick and easy as possible, putting some forethought into this and only carrying a few quality tools is a good way to go. I have no problem with needing a few more sizes than just 4,5,6mm, but if you have phillips or flathead fasteners on your bike, just replace them. You’ll save yourself time on the side of the road, you’ll save yourself frustration and you’ll save yourself money. It’s your bike, you should WANT to set it up to be as simple and easy to adjust/repair as possible. Forethought and a few quality purpose tools are better than a multi tool, any day of the week.
11-02-18 | 01:22 AM
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aire díthrub
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I’m not technically arguing against anything, as I said, to each their own. I was simply adding my opinion. Makes no difference to me what an internet stranger carries. As far as a derailleur, are you serious? Maybe it’s the mechanic in me coming out but, you should never be adjusting your high and low settings on the side of the road. That’s the type of maintenance that should be done at home before setting off, because all those screws do is set how far inboard and outboard the derailleur can swing. Failure to do that before riding is just laziness, not a good case for a multi tool. Hell, a keychain Swiss Army knife could handle that. Nearly anything could work to adjust those two screws. Besides that, once they are set the first time, they should never need adjusting again anyway. Also, we’re in the ss/fixed gear section aren’t we? So aren’t we under the assumption that the OP doesn’t have a derailleur on their bike? Or am I wrong?
11-02-18 | 06:57 AM
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4,5,6 Y hex wrench meets all my needs is light and ergonomic to use, unlike those multi-tools.
I don't know what half the things on that Fabric 16 do. It's like 13 more things than I need.
But replacing all your bolts just so you can carry one hex key seems borderline insane as well.
It takes all kinds.
To each his/her/their own.
I don't know what half the things on that Fabric 16 do. It's like 13 more things than I need.
But replacing all your bolts just so you can carry one hex key seems borderline insane as well.
It takes all kinds.
To each his/her/their own.
11-02-18 | 07:18 AM
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11-02-18 | 07:20 AM
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While it may change in the future-- as I've used more than my fair share of tool solutions, from multi-tools to a bundle of hex-keys rubberbanded together, and this is my current favorite, because it can contain exactly what tools I need. Every other multi-tool has had 2-3 things on there I just don't need.
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11-02-18 | 07:27 AM
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aire díthrub
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11-02-18 | 07:40 AM
#43
aire díthrub
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they aren’t. And if you ride a 1/8 riveted chain, it’s pretty essential to have a chain breaker. I use a master link though, and always carry a spare one. My pedros micro leavers technically count as a multitool I suppose? I would only carry a spoke wrench if I were going on a tour, but that’s just me. Anyway, you clearly wanted someone to disagree with you, because only you brought it up. You enjoy having ruffled feathers over people disagreeing with you?
11-02-18 | 08:33 AM
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Clark W. Griswold
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this is a good point, and it’s exactly the argument I make when people tell me they ‘need’ an overpriced multi tool. You can literally replace the bolts. I did that on my fender mounting bolts. I get that it may not be possible in every case, but you can certainly replace some, with a quick trip to a hardware store. I promise you’ll spend less money on a few replacement bolts than a multi tool. I mean, to each their own, but if you really want to carry as little as possible AND make any roadside repairs or adjustments as quick and easy as possible, putting some forethought into this and only carrying a few quality tools is a good way to go. I have no problem with needing a few more sizes than just 4,5,6mm, but if you have phillips or flathead fasteners on your bike, just replace them. You’ll save yourself time on the side of the road, you’ll save yourself frustration and you’ll save yourself money. It’s your bike, you should WANT to set it up to be as simple and easy to adjust/repair as possible. Forethought and a few quality purpose tools are better than a multi tool, any day of the week.
Individual tools are awesome and I do love them and certainly can be easier for some tasks but I don't want to have to swap bolts and if I did I would probably go T25 as a lot of higher end components are going that way and lessing the chance of stripping something in the field is a good thing. Not that I tend to strip bolts but when you are frustrated and maybe weather isn't great or you are in a rush the chance is greater.
11-02-18 | 12:52 PM
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How often do you need a tool on the road anyway? I ride a **** ton more than the avg SS/FG subforum user and I hardly ever do anything besides repair flats. Can't even remember the last time, really.
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11-02-18 | 01:59 PM
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I don't get flats on 99% of my rides, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop carrying the means to fix one. Off the top of my head, in recent memory I've used a multitool while out to --
-make fit adjustments
-tighten bolts that come loose
-quickly true a wheel after busting a spoke
-fix a broken chain
-swap parts when commuting to/from track
-dig glass and debris out of tires
-lend to other people who needed it for mechanicals
-realign cockpit after crashing
-make fit adjustments
-tighten bolts that come loose
-quickly true a wheel after busting a spoke
-fix a broken chain
-swap parts when commuting to/from track
-dig glass and debris out of tires
-lend to other people who needed it for mechanicals
-realign cockpit after crashing
11-02-18 | 08:19 PM
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11-02-18 | 08:38 PM
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If I wasn't already familiar with the typical posts on here, I might be surprised by the number of people who purportedly ride bikes, but have never needed to adjust a handlebar, raise or lower a seatpost, or even tighten a cleat on a shoe-- ever, even once, while riding.
On the other hand, I've done all of those things in the past 30 days.
On the other hand, I've done all of those things in the past 30 days.
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