yea i agree that is it sad and it sucks but still h ave noticed it has happened alot recently

Whatever you say queerpunk.

Ya I love all the tough guys that don't wear helmets. My dad is a retired LAPD cop and has seen numerous times people having their brains spilled out into the middle of the street. Or the enormous indentations that have killed pople from getting doored. I suggest a helmet.

Yo haven't you heard, being cool is totally easier when you can't talk due to massive head injury. Those dark, silent types are always getting the girl man.

Comfy, light, cool and it makes you look like you have anime hair. Also the decals come off.

that being said I find it odd how everyone in my neighborhood (where Padilla had her head crushed by a huge truck) keep talking about how they are *sure* to wear helmets now, as if that would have made a bit if difference in her case.

That helmet reeks of bourgeois comformity dude. Open your eyes! The man controls us by making us fear cracking our heads open on evil corporate pavement.

Yea. Its very sad what happend with Keith. I knew him from BME and a few of us went to his viewing yesterday. The way he died makes me really think twice about wanting to ride without a helmet.

As someone else said in here "when im in traffic, I ride with one finger over the brake lever"
Same here.

hey, cut them some slack. have you ever seen a delivery guy riding in the center line? no, they stay to the left.
these guys might not ride on the correct side but they dont ride wildly around swerving through traffic.

OK, I'll cut them some slack, but I will say that whenever I see cops ticketing food delivery guys, I feel satisfied that the cops are actually doing something useful.

It does suck for anyone to get hit by a car, especially when they aren't wearing a helmet (a helmet saved my life last summer by the way).

The #1 reason why people have a negative attitude about bicyclists in NYC are because these food delivery guys who cut people off, ride on sidewalks, ride down the wrong side of the street and have no regard at all for people around them.

I work in Midtown (48th & Park Ave.) and I see it every single day, a woman crossing the street getting nearly run over by a food delivery guy going the wrong way down the street and not wearing a helmet to boot. They ride like complete morons and act like a*sholes about it.

That is why I felt zero sympathy when I first read this post. Maybe if this guy had been wearing a helmet, he wouldn't be in critical condition and would have made it home with just a prescription for ibuprofen, rather than having a cracked skull and brain trauma.

That helmet is like 200$...

Word, I still dont understand who is telling those guys to ride against the traffic.

holy s.h.i.t, you're more of an a.s.s.hole than i imagined. you're making wicked generalizations about everyone who works a certain job (by the way, i thought it was those CRAZY MESSENGERS who gave bikers a bad reputation), and saying that your bad experience with them is enough to balance out DEATH, make you not give a sh.it when somebody dies.

that is wicked f.u.c.ked up.

Not 'who' but rather
An inflated sense of entitlement coupled with the most extreme form of empirical solipsism.

Or they're incredibly poor, make dick for wages, and are trying to squeeze in as many runs as possible so they can feed their family more than once a day.

Well, in New York, feeding their family wouldn't be an issue, as EVERYONE is ON FOOD STAMPS.

so it must be that:

They have an inflated sense of entitlement coupled with the most extreme form of empirical solipsism.

In the past week, on at least 3 occasions, including one this morning, I've had to avoid head-on collisions, with other cyclists, while taking a right turn from the right lane. These idiots were going the wrong way and turning left into traffic without a care in the world. Guess they had mouths to feed.

Those guys aren't on food stamps because they aren't legal citizens. Most likely they are very recently off the boat, and working to pay back the smuggler who brought them in. When that's done they can start sending money home to bring the rest of their family over. Anyone remember indentured servitude? It's kind of like that.

They ride that way because that's probably how they(and everyone else) rode at home. And they aren't that hard to avoid as they never ride very fast and generally don't do anything erratic, even if they are on the sidewalk or against traffic.

G-unit is right about them giving other cyclists a bad name though. A few years back an old guy was hit and killed by a chinese food deliveryman riding on the sidewalk on the upper west side. That caused all kinds of problems for cyclists, especially messengers as the media/general population doesn't know the difference. I got at least two tickets in the month or so afterward. Not even redlight tickets, but dumb stuff like not having a bell or reflectors(thanks Rudy, you bastard).

But still, this poor guy didn't deserve to die. I see children doing stupid things on bikes all the time, do you think they have it coming as well?

Its amazing how i started a thread to encourage everyone to ride more safely because i dont want to see any of you ending up hurt, and instead it ends up as a thread where people are talking **** on a guy who almost died.

Furthermore it amazes me that people are talking **** on him for something he didnt even do. Did you not read the part where i said HE WAS RIDING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STREET OBEYING ALL TRAFFIC LAWS?

Yes, many delivery people ride on the wrong side of the street. Yes that makes riding more dangerous for them and other cyclists. But look at it this way...if it was a messenger on a fixie riding against traffic to delivery an important rush job who was hit and almost killed would you all be talking the same ****? I doubt it!

Besides, what makes talkling **** on an almost dead guy worth it. Get to feel better about yourselves? What makes your fixed gear superior to his bike? That guy rides rain or shine to make ends meet. That is more than i can say for the majority of people here. While there are a number of messengers on this thread, there are also a bunch of people who just use their bikes to run errands, hang out, and commute to jobs that dont require riding all day. Myeslf included.

What we need is a lot less **** talking, a lot lss self righteousness, and a lot more education. If we educated everyone (and not just delivery people, but children, yuppies riding down to the store, hipsters tooling around williamsburg to look cool,and everyone else who doesnt necessarily know better) then maybe threads about people getting injured wouldnt be getting hijacked and turned into **** tallking.