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dustinlikewhat 07-14-05 09:10 PM

wheel dilemma
 
ok, so I'm building up a single speed road bike, and I've got a fixed gear. the fixed has the base line IRO wheels, which are awesome and are holding up damned well for having a 270 lb person skid stopping on them.

I need a rear wheel for the single speed. Two options:

1. but a wheel for the single speed, would probably be an IRO, although I would like a flip flop free/free rear hub, I can do with out it.

2. buy a new wheel/set for the fixed, and put the IRO's on the single speed. Would be a great time to upgrade my wheels.

so what would you do? if you went for an upgrade, what would you upgrade to?

also while I have your attention, know of anyplace I can get red brake cable housing?

BostonFixed 07-14-05 09:15 PM

I don't understand. How are you homeless yet have internet access? Are you homeless with a laptop and bum free internet from coffee shops?


I'm sorry I don't have any input on the wheel. I'm an ass.

dustinlikewhat 07-14-05 09:18 PM

couch surfin usa.

emayex 07-14-05 09:42 PM

i just upgraded my rear suzue basic laced to a sunrim

to a double fixed phil laced to mavic open pro rim

weeeee....and all i have to do is give up food for a few months

ill probably pick it up on sat...

tlupfer 07-14-05 10:00 PM

you could just use an old freewheel hub for the singlespeed. no real need to have a track hub.

CBBaron 07-15-05 08:17 AM

You can use a freewheel on a hub designed for a fixed gear so if you want two freewheels your current fixed gear wheel is fine.
If I was going to upgrade over the IRO wheelset I would probably go way up level to the Phil or Level Hub, and I'm partial to the Velocity Deep-V rim. But I'd probably stick to the IRO wheel or get an old freewheel hub for my SS.
Craig

filtersweep 07-15-05 08:58 AM

If you just want a wheel for a SS- buy/scrounge any old thread-on freewheel wheelset and you are good to go with a little DIY. You can find high-end obsolete stuff for next to nothing.

I hate having to swap out/share wheels between two bikes.

53-11_alltheway 07-15-05 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by filtersweep
If you just want a wheel for a SS- buy/scrounge any old thread-on freewheel wheelset and you are good to go with a little DIY. You can find high-end obsolete stuff for next to nothing.

I hate having to swap out/share wheels between two bikes.

Doesn't Surly make a special adapter for this? It turns a freehub wheel into a fixed gear wheel, right?

Kev 07-15-05 09:33 AM

Yeah they make a adapter to do that, you remove the freehub. They are talking about a freewheel not a freehub though. Which the cassette just screws on. So pick up a old 5-6-7 speed wheelset for cheap.. remove the freewheel screw on cog and you'll be set.. of course there is the spacing etc..

weed eater 07-15-05 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
ok, so I'm building up a single speed road bike, and I've got a fixed gear. the fixed has the base line IRO wheels, which are awesome and are holding up damned well for having a 270 lb person skid stopping on them.

I need a rear wheel for the single speed. Two options:

1. but a wheel for the single speed, would probably be an IRO, although I would like a flip flop free/free rear hub, I can do with out it.

2. buy a new wheel/set for the fixed, and put the IRO's on the single speed. Would be a great time to upgrade my wheels.

so what would you do? if you went for an upgrade, what would you upgrade to?

also while I have your attention, know of anyplace I can get red brake cable housing?

i have a set of Mavic GP4 tubular rims, on sunshine hubs with grease guards, that i will give to you if you pay the shipping. they have a threaded rear hub that will hold a singlespeed freewheel. you'll have to re-dish.

i think harris has red brake cable housing.

SirrusPackage 07-15-05 12:31 PM

Harris definitely has red housing, not expensive, and purchase-able by the foot.

dustinlikewhat 07-16-05 02:41 PM

so I went digging around in the barn and found an old suze sealed bmx hub, 48 holes...

so I guess my next step is replacing the 140mm axel with a 170mm, and getting spacers to knock it out to a 130mm as opposed to it's current 100mm.

then I'll need a 48 hole rim, I know that velocity deep v's come in 48 hole, but they're like $58. I hate to be a whiner, but if I'm gonna drop 58 on a rim, then $21 on spokes, and $6 on nipples, I'm up to $85 before shipping, then I gotta build the damn thing. It would be quicker and almost the same price to buy a wheel from IRO.

So if anyone knows of a 48 hole rim for around $30 that would be rad...

weed eater, thanks for the offer, I took a look at the gp4's and the sunshine hub, and I don't think it'll match this build up (I'm picky about color matching and aestetics). Thanks again though!

ps, I got some red housing from my LBS, I didn't know people were still doing colored housing. I thought everyone went over to the standard black.

Kev 07-16-05 03:14 PM

How about lacing it up to a 24 hole rim instead.. You could use a sun Venus Rim...
http://oddsandendos.safeshopper.com/9/109.htm?929 $39. Would cut the cost of spokes and nipples in half also... It is a deep v rim, 25mm. I have a wheelset built with those and miche track hubs has been running very well.

phidauex 07-16-05 03:15 PM

You could use a 36h rim and skip every third hole. :)

peace,
sam

BostonFixed 07-16-05 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by phidauex
You could use a 36h rim and skip every third hole. :)

peace,
sam

And sheldon sez its OK to to do this, so build away!

dustinlikewhat 07-16-05 08:18 PM

after discussing it with my dad (used to be a mechanic for a bike shop, worked as a mechanic at a few mtb races) I've decided to just buy a new wheel from iro. for what I was gonna pay for spokes, nipples, a rim, and not to mention my time in lacing the wheel, I can get a solid wheel with cartidge bearings (as opposed to the loose ball in the suze hub). maybe some day when I've got a spare rim and spokes laying around I'll lace it up, but for now, an IRO will be the winner.

dustinlikewhat 07-16-05 08:19 PM

ps. Thanks for all the input!

weed eater 07-17-05 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Kev
How about lacing it up to a 24 hole rim instead.. You could use a sun Venus Rim...
http://oddsandendos.safeshopper.com/9/109.htm?929 $39. Would cut the cost of spokes and nipples in half also... It is a deep v rim, 25mm. I have a wheelset built with those and miche track hubs has been running very well.

oddsandendos is out of the sun venus and i guess they're not getting any more. i ordered a pair and they replaced them with velocity fusions. a good substitute, not exactly what i was going for, but i think i came out ahead in any case. good folks over there. spokes are cheaper from them than from anywhere else I know of.

edit: i should note they asked me before substituting! alex was very helpful and communicative.

weed eater 07-17-05 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
weed eater, thanks for the offer, I took a look at the gp4's and the sunshine hub, and I don't think it'll match this build up (I'm picky about color matching and aestetics). Thanks again though!

you're welcome...someday i will get rid of these gp4s, either that or build up a bumbike with tubulars. sweet!

good luck with the build.


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