Brake free....
#1
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From: Toronto, ON
Bikes: 12 Y.O. Litespeed MTB, IRO Jamie Roy fixie, Custom Habanero Ti 'Cross, No name SS MTB, Old school lugged steel track bike (soon)
Brake free....
I've been riding my new fixie brakeless for around a week, mostly because I don't have any long reach brakes in my parts stash. Even after only a couple hundred km's, I can see the appeal. There is a fluidity and focus to riding without brakes that is intreguing. It's challenging, and it forces me look at urban riding in a different way. But, all things considered, I think it's not for me-certainly not every day. I find myself having to back off too much, way too often, where I would normally be riding fast and aggressively. I think I'll enjoy the bike more with a front brake. Just my $.02.
#5
Originally Posted by loke13
Exuse me.....but why do you need a brake to ride fast and aggressively**********.... I think you just dont know how to ride your bike.....just my $0.2
Please demonstrate the proper way to ride a bike.
#7
loke said it kinda rudely (shame on you, young man) but i see his point.. oh, darkmother, darkest of mothers.. i think what rude boy is trying to say is once you get used to it and are comfortable with skidding, etc.. you can pretty much ride the bike the same as a fixie with a front brake
#9
i can drive a 5sp car without a footbrake, too, but doesnt mean its the best way around. ive been riding my bike without a brake (in the process of swapping cockpit) minimally... its possible, but not for me.
#11
Your fixed drivetrain is also a rear brake. So, no fix is entirely brakeless (god how I hate that term).
Handbrakeless riding is fun for sure and can become as much a religion as brooks saddles, but it really is not as big a deal as most people think it is, or make it seem. Just give it a month or so - it will be easy and not as slow as you think.
Handbrakeless riding is fun for sure and can become as much a religion as brooks saddles, but it really is not as big a deal as most people think it is, or make it seem. Just give it a month or so - it will be easy and not as slow as you think.
#13
Originally Posted by redfooj
i can drive a 5sp car without a footbrake, too, but doesnt mean its the best way around. ive been riding my bike without a brake (in the process of swapping cockpit) minimally... its possible, but not for me.
p.s... jim-bob.. arent you the coaster expert? if not.. sorry about that
#14
Originally Posted by sloppy robot
thats a really bad analogy.. gearing downn isnt the same as locking the wheel.. and.. locking the wheel is the same as a coaster brake.. is it not, jim bob? (assuming you know how to lock the wheel... ) i rode a coaster brake cruiser in costa rica for a while that didnt have the stopping speed my fixed gear has.. nothing against coasters.. this particular bike just had a shoddy coaster
p.s... jim-bob.. arent you the coaster expert? if not.. sorry about that
p.s... jim-bob.. arent you the coaster expert? if not.. sorry about that
I like cantilevers.
#16
Originally Posted by sloppy robot
thats a really bad analogy.. gearing downn isnt the same as locking the wheel.. and.. locking the wheel is the same as a coaster brake.. is it not, jim bob? (assuming you know how to lock the wheel... ) i rode a coaster brake cruiser in costa rica for a while that didnt have the stopping speed my fixed gear has.. nothing against coasters.. this particular bike just had a shoddy coaster
p.s... jim-bob.. arent you the coaster expert? if not.. sorry about that
p.s... jim-bob.. arent you the coaster expert? if not.. sorry about that
both are possible to operate fully, but not most efficient.
for the purist who want the utmost simplicity... why dont you get on a unicycle? who needs an extra wheel, or chain, or steering devices...
#17
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Originally Posted by redfooj
for the purist who want the utmost simplicity... why dont you get on a unicycle? who needs an extra wheel, or chain, or steering devices...
for utubermost simplicity, i'd chop my arms and legs off and drag myself around with my tongue
#18
Originally Posted by redfooj
gearing down is analogous to applying backpressure, and now the car has a full-on/off braking feature...
both are possible to operate fully, but not most efficient.
for the purist who want the utmost simplicity... why dont you get on a unicycle? who needs an extra wheel, or chain, or steering devices...
both are possible to operate fully, but not most efficient.
for the purist who want the utmost simplicity... why dont you get on a unicycle? who needs an extra wheel, or chain, or steering devices...
Bottom line is some people enjoy riding without handbrakes, some don't. To some it feels right to others it does not.
#19
Originally Posted by redfooj
gearing down is analogous to applying backpressure, and now the car has a full-on/off braking feature...
both are possible to operate fully, but not most efficient.
for the purist who want the utmost simplicity... why dont you get on a unicycle? who needs an extra wheel, or chain, or steering devices...
both are possible to operate fully, but not most efficient.
for the purist who want the utmost simplicity... why dont you get on a unicycle? who needs an extra wheel, or chain, or steering devices...
#20
Originally Posted by sloppy robot
so if youre all-efficiency.. why are you at the ss/fixed gear forum? slinging sarcastic comments aboututmost simplicity? you are correct.. for the ultimate in efficiency.. a fixed gear bike with no hand brakes (or even with) is prob. not it.. thank you for pointing that out to us..
#21
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From: columbus
why run a brake you ask?
what if you strip your rear hub and need to stop? you use the brake, unless of course youre not running a brake then youre f c k e d
even if you only have it on there for that very reason put it on
i was running my bike brakeless and this happened to me the bike was destroyed and ive been without for over a month
walking 2plus hours a day is not fun
what if you strip your rear hub and need to stop? you use the brake, unless of course youre not running a brake then youre f c k e d
even if you only have it on there for that very reason put it on
i was running my bike brakeless and this happened to me the bike was destroyed and ive been without for over a month
walking 2plus hours a day is not fun
#22
ah.. i wish my pants were getting wet.. whatever that means.. well that being said.. the key words there are "not suited for me" .. which i guess my point was "for you" the car gearing analogy works because that is your biking ability...where as for others.. its more like the ebrake.. cause some people can stop a fixed gear pretty quick on a skid.. just as quick as handbrakes.. i think we sometimes forget that handbrakes are not the hottest contraptions either.. if someone cuts you off hard.. handbrake or skid... it doesnt matter.. neither are going to stop you in time in some situations
#25
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From: New Orleans
Bikes: 2004 Gunnar Rock Hound MTB; 1988 Gitane Team Pro road bike; 1986-ish Raleigh USA Grand Prix; mid-'80s Univega Gran Tourismo with Xtracycle Free Radical
I run caliper brakes front and rear because a) I have a fixed/free flip-flop. b) I like to carry baguettes nestled atop the brake hoods and held in place with the help of the brake cables. c) I like them.



