Hola, I'm new to the forums although I've been lurking for a while

I'm looking to build my first fixie and have found this frame and fork from a local seller. It's a Colnago Master with columbus spiral SLX tubing. Seller says it's in very good condition.



I love the straight chromed fork

It's hard to find a good frame with horizontal dropouts in here, others I've seen are Alu-cheapy-rubish-ugly painted ones : \ What's your opinion? How much is it worth? I could get it without shipping costs.

Thx!

I'll be sad if you turn that into a singlespeed.

from the graphics I am guessing it is approximately 10 years old. Is the seller willing to sell the frame only? If not, what are the components? Is it campy or shimano?

Another option--check e-bay. You can find colnago frames and get a sense of what they are selling for.

One thing to be aware of w/colnago--the paint tends to chip off rather easily. If that is the case with this bike--check to see if the owner patched it up. (On my steel colnago I have patched it w/dabs of bike paint and nail polish to prevent rust). This is just to ensure that there is no rust.

I am not sure what the going rate for a used colnago is in Europe. So, find out what year the bike was built and whether it could be a frame only sale.

Honestly, if I were to sell my 2000 colnago classic (frame only) I would ask $500 USD to start (as it is well maintained, no rust, etc.). The Master is the "next step up" in the colnago line so could get more depending on the condition, etc.

why? he will get rid of all the rattly bits.

That bike is sweet and yearns for DT shifters. Spiral SLX, yeah!

Seriously, that looks to be in really good condition and the seller will probably want way more than it's worth given that it looks to be fitted with nice bits.

I guess if I were to take a shot at a reasonable market price for the frame and fork alone, I wouldn't go higher than $200. It might very well be able to move for more than that, but I wouldn't pay it. I'm no Italian snob and there are lots of quality frames under less assuming marques.

Yes, he is selling it complete or parts. It mounts campy chorus 9v.

He asked me 300€ for frame and fork (370$) although he said we could negotiate.. so, maybe 250€.

250 Euro is probably not an unreasonable price if you could talk him down (I'd even written $250 above initially), but I don't think I could do it. Have you looked at ebay.es?

If you can get it for 250--I say go for it.

Just a caveat before I get totally slammed and flamed for my overpriced quote--I admit I overvalue my colnago. It took years of test riding and saving the dough to built this ride.

Be gentle on me, I am an old cyclist who is just trying to age gracefully and whose knees needs gears.

That is a gorgeous bike! I say buy it with all the rattly bits and save them...just in case!

/me jealous.

Because I am a subscriber of both the "track bikes on streets" philosophy AND the "leave nice road bikes alone" philosophy. That is a beautiful bike and deserves to have a nice Campy group on it and be raced, not stripped and turned into a "oh nice bike......if it wasn't a conversion"

better a nice conversion than a "nice bike sitting in the shop for a decade or collecting dust in a garage". If those bikes where so desireable then there wouldnt be websites full of NOS of them and used ones on
ebay for 300 euros.

Show me where I can get oen of those NOS for 300 euros so I can build it up properly.

I totally agree. If you want a Colnago track bike, get a Colnago track bike.
That is a beautiful bike and would be a great race bike *as is*. To convert it to ss or fixed would be like welding a deraileur hanger onto a classic track frame, putting cable routing braze-ons, and drilling the classic unicrown fork for a brake.

Oh baby, keep that one as is! Too damn beautiful.

I'm off to find NOS and check the european eBay for Colnago's...

Here's FixedFiend's Master Light Pista:
https://fixedgeargallery.com/2005/apr/FIXEDFIEND_aol.htm

very well put. i completely agree with everyone: buy that bike and leave it geared. it's too gorgeous and spec'ed too well to just strip it down. man, bronze cxp 30 rims... hottt.

if you want a nice fixie, then buy a real track frame. (not running for cover)

On ebay.es there's right now only 1 frame, and it's a MTB one... never seen a track one or a useful to convert road one You guys are lucky having so many parts avaible on ebay.com. On ebay.fr and ebay.co.uk there are more parts, but again, not as comfortable and fast as getting it localy

I'll talk to the seller and try to down a bit more the price... I won't mind riding this one as a converted, if he's selling parts.. why don't profit the oportunity? Who knows.. maybe one day she will be a roadie again!

I'll tell you if I finally got it

This went for the opening bid of $30 (SL tubing), no takers previous time around.
https://allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=59172421

Dude that is a sweet, sweet machine, buy it and ride it geared. Specially if it's got a nice group. Or if I was you, I'd save my cash and find a Colnago track frame and build that up instead.

The problem is that Colnago steel track frames are hard to find because of limited production runs. When someone finds a NOS or used, they're more than likely not willing to pay what it should be worth if they were in the market for a conversion in the first place.

I didnt say the NOS go for 300. but thats why they dont sell. thats how I got my titanium one.
was on the website for almost a year.

nice one here, no bidders yet:
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Colnago-Master...QQcmdZViewItem

this one went for 353 euros:
https://cgi.ebay.de/Colnago-Rennmasch...QQcmdZViewItem

nice one too:
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COLNAGO-SLX-SP...QQcmdZViewItem

232 euros:
https://cgi.ebay.it/COLNAGO_W0QQitemZ...QQcmdZViewItem

exactly. that was my point. the road steel colnagos are really easy to get and cheap. they have
a nice ride with the classic geometry and make a great street bike.

What's the deal, these are all road frames. Where's the track at?

Call me a techno anti-retro-grouch but steel is too heavy to race on these days. Check out the pro peloton, its all aluminium or carbon fiber. Don't get me wrong, its nice to ride, 2 of my 4 bikes are steel.

haha..all those "road purists" that recommend to get a track from for the street are funny.

Holy crap! Those bikes are CHEAP! Dang, you can't get a deal like that here.

Steel too heavy to race? Maybe. A lot of people are still racing steel, especially in CX. Maybe it's too heavy when you're a top elite competitor, but for the average amateur racer it's the engine that matters most.