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Old 09-05-05 | 04:54 PM
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Regarding traffic laws for cars, the police themselves drive about ten per cent over the posted speed limit because it has become a cultural norm.
Everyone does it.
Similarly, bicycles practice a number of variations on the law, which work to everyone's advantage.
For example, many bicyclists I know time their arrival at a four way stop so that they can cross with a car.
It remains, though, that since I got my ticket, I have not seen one bicyclist stop at a stop sign for a right turn, if a bike lane exists.
If they want to write me a ticket for doing something non-dangerous that everyone does, then they need to enforce the traffic laws for automobiles at the same level of rigor.
Remember, all of this took place in a bike lane.
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Old 09-05-05 | 05:26 PM
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I would have stopped if its a cop, but still that price is recock.

earlier this summer, on mercer island (Seattle Suburb) 3 cyclists were each given 150 dollar tickets for trackstanding at a stop sign, rather then putting a foot down. thats so wrong.

Track stand for the win.
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Old 09-05-05 | 05:40 PM
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yeah... you made eye contact with the cop and still blew thru a 4 way stop he was surveying? That's akin to locking your car's brakes as you roll into a speed trap... they're bound to take action. The situtation sucks--and hopefully you can beat the ticket in court--but you've got to admit this was easily avoidable.
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Old 09-05-05 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonyates
(Sorry to be a jerk but I am really curious why everyone is of the opinion that laws that apply to both cars and bikes should be more leniently enforced against cyclists..)
Cars, without occupants and luggage, are two-ton vehicles that regularly drive 10+ mph over the speed limit.

Bikes, with operator and luggage, weigh 200-300 pounds and rarely go over 25mph.

Call me crazy, but the exact same rules shouldn't apply to both. All the same, the OP shouldn't have given the po an excuse to stop him.

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Old 09-05-05 | 06:13 PM
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(Sorry to be a jerk but I am really curious why everyone is of the opinion that laws that apply to both cars and bikes should be more leniently enforced against cyclists..)
I think most of us are of the opinion that laws should NOT be more leniently enforced against CARS, as is usually the case.
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Old 09-05-05 | 07:04 PM
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In many places, cyclists exist in a legal gray area where they are not really vehicles and not pedestrians, and have the legal protection of neither. As I see it, in a lot of places the law is prime for having cyclists shat upon in ways that would never happen to either motorists or pedestrians. In short, we get the short end of the stick. Traffic law leniency towards cyclists is, in a lot of cases, the only fair compensation. </opinion>
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Old 09-05-05 | 09:15 PM
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Actually, in most places cyclists exist in a very black-and-white area where they are absolutely operators of vehicles, co-equal with motorists. That's often not taken seriously which can sometimes work in the cyclists' favor and sometimes against them.

Still, in this case there's not much to be said other than, oh damn, sucks to be Ken Cox today.
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