Riser Bars - pro or con?
09-23-05 | 04:15 PM
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There is this courier in Chicago who has the craziest bar setup I have ever seen. He has a very short, like 6" long piece of bar material attached to the stem like a very very short flat bar. On the ends of that are bar end extenders pointing down and forwards and then on the ends of those he has another set of bar ends pointing back and down with the brake levers attached there(he rides a road bike). They are basically a very small, very narrow set of drops. his hands are only an inch or two from his front wheel.
09-23-05 | 05:17 PM
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what the f is the point of that?
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09-23-05 | 05:48 PM
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I currently like a mt bike slight riser bar flipped and cut skinny like the top of drops.
Originally Posted by 12XU
Really narrow risers with a 58 degree Nitto stem is where it's at.
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09-23-05 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nayr497
Do you wear $400 mountain jackets when frequenting coffee chains? Are you the skier with the most amazing equipment, who stays home when it dips below 30 degrees?
Congratulations, you've joined the Extreme Consumer Club!! You buy things made for extreme conditions yet use them for the most plainly normal activities. Your bicycle will stand up there on the NYC streets right next to all those Hummers, as being completely out-of-place.
Why acquire a KEIRIN TRACK frame to put risers on it? You are defying every pedigree with which the machine was constructed. While your bicycle looks the part, it seems as if you can't endure your end, which is putting up with the positioning on a track bicycle. And, if you really were concerned with safety there is no question you'd have a brake on in a city like NYC. I don't care even if it is flat; velodromes don't have cabs, construction trucks and pedestrians.
Way to go! Enjoy your new, comfortable handlebars.
Congratulations, you've joined the Extreme Consumer Club!! You buy things made for extreme conditions yet use them for the most plainly normal activities. Your bicycle will stand up there on the NYC streets right next to all those Hummers, as being completely out-of-place.
Why acquire a KEIRIN TRACK frame to put risers on it? You are defying every pedigree with which the machine was constructed. While your bicycle looks the part, it seems as if you can't endure your end, which is putting up with the positioning on a track bicycle. And, if you really were concerned with safety there is no question you'd have a brake on in a city like NYC. I don't care even if it is flat; velodromes don't have cabs, construction trucks and pedestrians.
Way to go! Enjoy your new, comfortable handlebars.
some of us also just ride what makes us happiest... last i checked i wasnt doing circles around a velodrome for cash prizes..
i posted my rig before.. but here it is again...nayr497.. i hope this doesnt make you have a heart attack.. a 20 year old track frame that had never been ridden.. only to get built with risers! oh the humanity!
p.s....those risers were 9.95 and the grips were 5.95 at bike nashbar.. i cut about an inch off them.. might do a tiny bit more
09-23-05 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sloppy robot
ha! im gonna say it.. this is the stupidest argument ive ever heard.. go tell sheldon brown that.. he'd love it.. um.. some of us ride track frames cause we love the feel of tight geometry with big wheels..
I like to hold on near the middle for cutting into a headwind, and near the ends for slow speed climbing.
The height issue should, in my not at all humble opinion, be addressed by using an appropriate stem, not by putting awkward extra bends into the bars.
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09-23-05 | 09:25 PM
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i wasnt really refering to the bars themself.. but more the idea that you should ONLY use a bike for its intended purpose or youre an idiot. I cant imagine that youd stand behind that idea. Am i wrong?
as an ex-riser-hater.. i can totally understand if people hate these bars.. i hated risers and tandems until i tried 'em.
as an ex-riser-hater.. i can totally understand if people hate these bars.. i hated risers and tandems until i tried 'em.
09-23-05 | 11:21 PM
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The bars I like are a cheap set of Wald chrome steel. the LBS has them for about $10. You can see them here. They have a slight rise and the grip area is canted slightly to the rear. On my bike, I adjusted the "rise" more forward than up. They're fairly narrow as-is, and the grip area is relatively small, which may make it difficult to mount some kinds of brake levers and have enough room for grips. I have some Tektro/Nashbar bullhorn brake levers that fit nicely on these bars.
I even ran these bars upside down for a bit of fun.
I even ran these bars upside down for a bit of fun.
09-24-05 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sloppy robot
i wasnt really refering to the bars themself.. but more the idea that you should ONLY use a bike for its intended purpose or youre an idiot. I cant imagine that youd stand behind that idea. Am i wrong?
I was mainly replying to the thread, not to your particular posting.
That said, I thing your bike would be cooler with straight bars and a stem that put the grips in a comfortable position. It would also be more fun to ride if you put a front brake on it.
Originally Posted by sloppy robot
as an ex-riser-hater.. i can totally understand if people hate these bars.. i hated risers and tandems until i tried 'em.
09-24-05 | 09:26 PM
#36
Tremendous help from everyone (inc. Sheldon Brown!), thanks again for everyone's opinions pro and con.
I have swapped out my drops for some risers, raised my stem slightly. I have to say, it's really quite (obviously) a change, I think for the better. Far less sketchier being a bit more upright, far more comfortable, able to stop quicker. I may go with Sheldon's recomendation of using flats at some point in the future, but all is nice now.
I have swapped out my drops for some risers, raised my stem slightly. I have to say, it's really quite (obviously) a change, I think for the better. Far less sketchier being a bit more upright, far more comfortable, able to stop quicker. I may go with Sheldon's recomendation of using flats at some point in the future, but all is nice now.
09-27-05 | 11:07 PM
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Hey guys, new to the forum, but im also thinking of putting some risers on my road rig. But also wanted to cut them down a bit. Is aluminum more likely to fail if the ends are cut? Is it best to stick with steel? Any info on this or models that would work woudl be great. Thanks guys
09-28-05 | 08:22 AM
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As long as it's a clean cut, I think your aluminum bars will be just as strong. In fact, in some respects, they may be even stronger, since the same amount of force makes less torque. Steel is good too. Follow your heart.
10-03-05 | 06:21 PM
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I like the coda flats on my cyclocross bike with Ritchey shorty bar ends, but recently I've taken to riding a beat up old 10 speed most of the time, and my favorite thing about it besides the big wire baskets in back is the drops. I find I spend most of my time in the drops. Mtn style bars are good, but you might find you miss the drop position.
My fixed build I'm currently working on is getting drops for now because that's what I have, but I might switch to a flat bar or bullhorns later. I'm thinking bullhorns will give me the best advantage while climbing which I do a lot of. I don't like risers either, but flat bars are a nice ride for me.
My fixed build I'm currently working on is getting drops for now because that's what I have, but I might switch to a flat bar or bullhorns later. I'm thinking bullhorns will give me the best advantage while climbing which I do a lot of. I don't like risers either, but flat bars are a nice ride for me.
10-03-05 | 11:15 PM
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From: all up in ya grill...
Originally Posted by manboy
Yeah, just try out some cheap risers. The hacksaw is your friend.
Do you have brakes? If not, you should set up a number of different bar/stem combinations that you can change according to your daily whims.
Yes, it's a possibility I've thought about.
Do you have brakes? If not, you should set up a number of different bar/stem combinations that you can change according to your daily whims.
Yes, it's a possibility I've thought about.
10-03-05 | 11:38 PM
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I'll just chime in on my moustache bars, since they were mentioned earlier. One thing I've found with these on my fixed conversion are that they're kind of wide--especially if you're ever in crowded places, like, oh, I don't know--Manhattan! They just seem to get in the way a lot when I'm not on the bike. And if you're using a brake, which I do, putting that sucker on and getting it right with wrapping grip tape took waaaaay too long. Bullhorns seem most practical, but I personally find them kind of anti-aesthetic. All personal taste, really.
