im going to my lbs to buy a lockring tool. my lbs sucks they know nothing. so what i need to know is what tool to look for, for a iro hub? i know they have alot of park tools. is there a model number of one i should get?

thanx

skip the Park ones, get a Hozan, either the spanner or the pliers. Park sucks. Period.
From BusinessCycles' site:
https://businesscycles.com/trpart.htm#lockring
Hozan C-205 lockring spanner - double-ended (different radii) single-tooth lockring tool - $22.50
Hozan C-203 lockring pliers - For applications where some grunt is necessary - $36.50.

whatever you do, don't get the Park.

it doesn't matter what hub it is, it should work with most if not all lockrings. You want the lockring spanner, part #hcw 5 for the park. But what you really should get is the lockring pliers. Those will get any lockring off including ones that have been locktite on. You can order those at businese cycles.

amen to the f*ck park sentiment

thanx ill do that. but i need one today .so if park tools all they got will it work? whats with no anger in this post i look forward to your anger answers

the park one will do the job but it's not good. it can slip off the nothces in the lockring easily. The hozan has a much better fit and feel.
if you're going to your lbs to buy it because you need it immediately, buy it, use it, return it and order the hozan.

Shimano TL-SR20 - combination 1/8" chain whip with lockring spanner - $37.50

anyone know anything about this combo tool?

ok all they had. will it work and is worth the $30 i spent on it?

hozan is the jam. i still, however, have the hots for the makino super tool of ultra death (or whatever in the hell it's called).

the dura-ace one is nice, with the chainwhip part thing.

I bought some Hozan Pliers, they rock! Getting the lockring off and on is no problem and I when I went to retighten the locking after a bit of riding it hardly needed to be tightened. Worth the money... much less hassle than the park POS.

Hozan lockring pliers are decidedly the sh*t. About the best tool I have.

so this worth keeping around.

ok ,now not to sound dumb but ive been reading about every one stripping there hub and so on. all i need to do is tighten my lockring what would be the proper way? i mean my conversion was just more loctite.

counterclockwise.

after you've snugged up the cog with a chainwhip. you have a chainwhip, right?

hot damn i do.

argh, I still can't find the axis lock ring tool on the internet anywhere, where the hell did my dad get it?

You don't even need a chainwhip, you can do almost just as well with a thick rag instead. Also, if you're being really cheap and back yard larry, you can just use a screwdriver and hammer to work with your lockring. This is how cave men have done it for years. The tools do make it nicer though.

here's a weird suggestion that has worked for me. not sure how much plumbing any of you do, but there's a long-handled adjustable lockring tool sold for use on sink strainer lockrings that with just a little filing works great on stuck track hub lockrings. probably $20-ish at your local ace hardware; about 10 minutes of filing gets it where it needs to be.

If you are planning on hammering backwards (skids and whatnot) you need to make sure that the cog is cranked down tight, if it isn't then you can spin that lock-ring as much as you want and it will still loosen once the cog settles.

My favorite trick is to take the chain off the front chainring and lay it around the BB, then wrap the chain around the cog and turn the wheel. You will get almost twice the leverage by using the wheel as you would with any other method.

Once the cog is cranked then I'd use the pliers. You can also use the spanner and a hammer and screwdriver but you will mangle the grooves in the lock-ring. When using the spanner I have always had to drift it home or it would spin.

Maybe I am stomping too hard but that is the only method that has ever worked for long periods of time.

Milo

ok it worked it was so loose and now its tight.ha ha

thanx

Instead of starting a new thread I am just going to add onto this one. Anyone using the VAR tool for Lockrings? How do you like it? I have a lockring that is super stuck and can't get it off with my spanner. I have decided to buy a pair of lockring pliers and depending on feedback on these will help with the decision between these and the Hozan.