high flange, radially laced…
10-03-05, 08:51 AM
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high flange, radially laced…
…i've been told that this is a bad idea. i got a 28h dura ace front track hub (w/cut-outs) and i wanted to lace it radially. does anyone know if this will/could be a problem?
10-03-05, 08:56 AM
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Actually, that's exactly what I have on my GT (high flange 7600 series hub, 28 radial spokes). It's survived for a while like this (doesn't look like the guy I bought it from changed anything with the wheels...ever) - and I took it on the mean streets of Boston and the ghettodrome last week without issue. I think the biggest knock is that it is slightly less durable/strong of an arrangement than crossed lacing, but as it's going on the front, I wouldn't worry too much. If you have any doubts about it, just go crossed instead.
10-03-05, 09:21 AM
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…i mainly worried about the flange giving way. radial lacing puts alot more stress on the flange right? and when the flange has cut-outs...
10-03-05, 09:23 AM
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travsi has the older pre-7600 shimano track hub. Its looks more like the campy high flange hubs.
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You could do it. But, for 28H where the spoke tension will need to be high, you may put too much stress on the hub at its weakest point. Shimano does not even warranty radial lacing for its much more substantial 7600 hubs.
And, not that you aren't already aware of it, radial lacing offers no benefit other than looks. So, while risk a nice hub like that...
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travsi has the older pre-7600 shimano track hub. Its looks more like the campy high flange hubs.
Travsi-
You could do it. But, for 28H where the spoke tension will need to be high, you may put too much stress on the hub at its weakest point. Shimano does not even warranty radial lacing for its much more substantial 7600 hubs.
And, not that you aren't already aware of it, radial lacing offers no benefit other than looks. So, while risk a nice hub like that...
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Radial Lacing - A (mostly) harmless affectation on front wheels. Although it doesn't happen often, if the flange breaks on a hub that bears evidence of radial lacing, you're on your own as far as many manufacturers' warranties are concerned. Despite popular belief to the contrary, radial lacing is not more aerodynamic than crossed patterns. To prevent excessive loading at the elbow of the spoke, I normally lace radial wheels "spoke head out". I won't waste much time in the shop (or on the phone) trying to talk you out of radially laced front wheels - just know that it won't change your order of finish one way or the other and may be counterproductive in some situations.
10-03-05, 09:31 AM
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yeah, i read all that stuff from business cycles …but i think radial looks nice. oh, well i don't want to risk a hub for pure visual benefits.
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Personally, I would go one or two cross. But the cut-outs certainly don't matter at all. Flanges break at the very edge, when they do, not lower down.
Edit: Found this looking for a broked flange pic.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/record-track.html
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Here you go, found a typical broken flange pic: https://svana.org/sjh/images/alpine05/fw1_med.jpg
Edit: these pics do look scary, but many have used and abused radial wheels without a problem. If you really like the looks and wouldn't be completely heartbroken in the very unlikely case of a failure, go for it. Especially if you are light and dont hit curbs, potholes etc. A slightly lower spoke tension will probably help, too.
Edit: Found this looking for a broked flange pic.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/record-track.html
Jeeheesus
Here you go, found a typical broken flange pic: https://svana.org/sjh/images/alpine05/fw1_med.jpg
Edit: these pics do look scary, but many have used and abused radial wheels without a problem. If you really like the looks and wouldn't be completely heartbroken in the very unlikely case of a failure, go for it. Especially if you are light and dont hit curbs, potholes etc. A slightly lower spoke tension will probably help, too.
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