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#252
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From: Newark, CA/Sacramento, CA
Bikes: Leader 725, Kilo tt
Been having issues with my kilo tt.
I've switched back to my kilo from my 725, and also put on a 1/8th 17t cog onto my kilo tt along with a 1/8th chain. However the chainring on the bike is a 3/32, I've read that I shouldn't be running into any issues, but when I start from a dead stop and on the downstroke (right foot for me) it feels like it drops down and there is no forward momentum. I know its not possible that the wheel is losing traction, but I also can't think of an issue it could be with the drive train.
I'm wondering if anyone had any clues as to what this issue could be and how I can fix it, I'd prefer not to have to buy a new chainring to match the 1/8th to match.
Thanks
I've switched back to my kilo from my 725, and also put on a 1/8th 17t cog onto my kilo tt along with a 1/8th chain. However the chainring on the bike is a 3/32, I've read that I shouldn't be running into any issues, but when I start from a dead stop and on the downstroke (right foot for me) it feels like it drops down and there is no forward momentum. I know its not possible that the wheel is losing traction, but I also can't think of an issue it could be with the drive train.
I'm wondering if anyone had any clues as to what this issue could be and how I can fix it, I'd prefer not to have to buy a new chainring to match the 1/8th to match.
Thanks
#256
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From: Philadelphia
Bikes: Surly CreamRoller. 98 Giant Rincon. SE UVT
I just got a flat, it's a very small puncture. I have plenty of patches but i'm out of glue. Is rubber cement from home depot the same thing as the glue from patch kits? If it isn't does home depot have something that's very similar I can buy tomorrow morning? I just want a big thing of patch glue quick. Would this work? https://www.homedepot.com/p/DAP-3-fl-...0107/100195615
Last edited by Philasteve; 06-05-14 at 08:58 PM.
#257
THE STUFFED


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From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone Gen 8
I just got a flat, it's a very small puncture. I have plenty of patches but i'm out of glue. Is rubber cement from home depot the same thing as the glue from patch kits? If it isn't does home depot have something that's very similar I can buy tomorrow morning? I just want a big thing of patch glue quick. Would this work? DAP 3 fl. oz. Weldwood Original Contact Cement-00107 at The Home Depot
Most 99 cents stores carry it too in a large travel toothpaste size tube.
Use it just like you would with the stuff that comes in kits.
#259
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From: Philadelphia
Bikes: Surly CreamRoller. 98 Giant Rincon. SE UVT
Thanks man appreciate it, I'll go grab some from either the dollar store or home depot tomorrow.
#260
THE STUFFED


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From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone Gen 8
You want straight up "contact cement".
#261
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From: Philadelphia
Bikes: Surly CreamRoller. 98 Giant Rincon. SE UVT
Got ya, I know exactly what you're talking about. I'll make sure it's industrial stuff and not gummy weak crap.
#262
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From: Philadelphia
Bikes: Surly CreamRoller. 98 Giant Rincon. SE UVT
[MENTION=180928]Leukybear[/MENTION] I grabbed a 3 oz. bottle today for $4. I think this stuff works better than the little bottle that comes with the patch kits. It might just be I can use more since the bottles huge but no complaints. I filled up an empty little vizine eye drop bottle for the road lol.
#263
Zip tie Karen
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From: Fair Oaks Ranch, TX
Bikes: '13 Motobecane Fantom29 HT, '16 Motobecane Turino Pro Disc, '18 Velobuild VB-R-022, '21 Tsunami SNM-100
No. This is not the correct adhesive. Vulcanizing adhesives can be purchased at auto parts stores in the tire repair section.
#264
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From: Philadelphia
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#265
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From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone Gen 8
Sure it may not be "proper" in the eyes of a person who does it by the book but it does have vulcanizing ingredients. And for the price to quantity ratio, it can't be beat.
It can easily take care of a patch made from roughed scrap inner tube as well.
You can't argue with results.
Here's one of my patch jobs with the stuff:

Looks pretty vulcanized to me.
Last edited by Leukybear; 06-07-14 at 12:26 PM.
#266
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From: Philadelphia
Bikes: Surly CreamRoller. 98 Giant Rincon. SE UVT
I primarily use it and it's never failed me.
Sure it may not be "proper" in the eyes of a person who does it by the book but it does have vulcanizing ingredients. And for the price to quantity ratio, it can't be beat.
It can easily take care of a patch made from roughed scrap inner tube as well.
You can't argue with results.
Here's one of my patch jobs with the stuff:

Looks pretty vulcanized to me.
Sure it may not be "proper" in the eyes of a person who does it by the book but it does have vulcanizing ingredients. And for the price to quantity ratio, it can't be beat.
It can easily take care of a patch made from roughed scrap inner tube as well.
You can't argue with results.
Here's one of my patch jobs with the stuff:

Looks pretty vulcanized to me.
#268
THE STUFFED


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From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone Gen 8
Buy a jar or large tube of contact cement and bulk patches direct from china on ebay or alibaba and you'll be set after you pair it up with either a dull saw blade, file,or sandpaper/ skateboard grip tape trimmings to roughen the spot.
Easiest way to find a pin hole leak is to fill a tube up to 10/15 PSI and put it in a partially filled sink or basin and look for the bubbles, marking it with a pen so you dont lose it.
Last edited by Leukybear; 06-07-14 at 10:46 PM.
#269
So far I have been averaging about 2 flats a year, which is why I haven't made it a big deal. I already do trace down the location of the puncture though, so that I can inspect the tire (usually involves removing something from it) so really it would just be about getting the stuff you mentioned, which I am guessing will cost about the same as one new tube.
#270
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From: San Francisco, CA
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So far I have been averaging about 2 flats a year, which is why I haven't made it a big deal. I already do trace down the location of the puncture though, so that I can inspect the tire (usually involves removing something from it) so really it would just be about getting the stuff you mentioned, which I am guessing will cost about the same as one new tube.
#271
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From: Annandale, New Jersey
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Tubes cost money which can add up pretty quickly. Patches are pennies on the dollar.
Buy a jar or large tube of contact cement and bulk patches direct from china on ebay or alibaba and you'll be set after you pair it up with either a dull saw blade, file,or sandpaper/ skateboard grip tape trimmings to roughen the spot.
Easiest way to find a pin hole leak is to fill a tube up to 10/15 PSI and put it in a partially filled sink or basin and look for the bubbles, marking it with a pen so you dont lose it.
Buy a jar or large tube of contact cement and bulk patches direct from china on ebay or alibaba and you'll be set after you pair it up with either a dull saw blade, file,or sandpaper/ skateboard grip tape trimmings to roughen the spot.
Easiest way to find a pin hole leak is to fill a tube up to 10/15 PSI and put it in a partially filled sink or basin and look for the bubbles, marking it with a pen so you dont lose it.
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#273
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From: San Francisco, CA
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I wonder if they're along the lines of what I'm thinking of... anyhow no airable tire no matter how much "protection" it has is 100% full-proof.
Tireliners also help. BUT they do slowly and eventually wear thin tubes and puncture them themselves at where they lapover. Of which is directly correlated along with ride quality degradement of varying degrees depending on how thick/ protective the liner is.
Tireliners also help. BUT they do slowly and eventually wear thin tubes and puncture them themselves at where they lapover. Of which is directly correlated along with ride quality degradement of varying degrees depending on how thick/ protective the liner is.
#274
Panaracer RiBMO's have tread and sidewall protection, and come as close to 100% as you could ask.
#275
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From: Philadelphia
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