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TejanoTrackie 12-16-14 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by IAmSam (Post 17392581)
I received my new Wabi wheelset yesterday and rode them on one of our “fast” nite-time urban rides. While, from my short time on them so far, I am quite satisfied with their performance – I just do not care for the internal bolt system they use.

@TejanoTrackie (or anyone else familiar with these)…did you not, once upon a time, post about using quick releases on yours? If I am recalling that correctly, could you please explain how you did it?

Or…

Do you think its possible to change-out the axles to the typical ones that take external nuts? And if so, can you tutor me on how you would go about doing that?

Yes, I'm using QR skewers with my Wabi wheelset, and it's as simple as using them instead of the bolts. The front wheel uses a 100mm QR, same as any geared bike with a QR wheel. The rear will require a 126mm long QR as a minimum, and it should be an internal cam design that is meant to develop sufficient clamping force to keep the the axle from slipping in a horizontal dropout. I still had problems keeping the wheel from moving on mine, and ended up using a Surly Tugnut and a modern 130mm external cam QR.

As to replacing the axles, I don't think it's possible, but perhaps Richard at Wabi would be a better person to ask this question.

Unkle Rico 12-16-14 11:06 AM

Hmm.. i hadn't thought about that. I think i've decided to go with Sram components -- 700 flat bar levers and the Apex front caliper. From what i can tell, these workin together should work out just fine!


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 17392453)
One more thing, if you have road calipers or cantilevers, you'll want short pull brakes. Most MTB brakes these days are long pull, some can be adjusted for long/short and a few are short pull.


cDiff Notorious 12-16-14 11:46 AM

Hi, Im looking to replace my current crank and bottom bracket with a Phil Wood bottom bracket to go with a Sugino 75 crankset. My bike is a Wabi Classic that has a TH BB-7420ST 68/103 sealed, I think it's JIS. The rear hub is stated as "120mm OLD rear". The sales rep said, "Both the 108 or the 110.5 ISO taper bottom bracket will work with the Sugino 75 cranks depending the the geometry of the frame." Which of these two bottom bracket would be close to a perfect chainline in relation to the bikes geometry?

Unkle Rico 12-16-14 11:58 AM

I think that depends on what wheel/hub/cog you are running


Originally Posted by cDiff Notorious (Post 17393372)
Hi, Im looking to replace my current crank and bottom bracket with a Phil Wood bottom bracket to go with a Sugino 75 crankset. My bike is a Wabi Classic that has a TH BB-7420ST 68/103 sealed, I think it's JIS. The rear hub is stated as "120mm OLD rear". The sales rep said, "Both the 108 or the 110.5 ISO taper bottom bracket will work with the Sugino 75 cranks depending the the geometry of the frame." Which of these two bottom bracket would be close to a perfect chainline in relation to the bikes geometry?


Scrodzilla 12-16-14 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Unkle Rico (Post 17393399)
I think that depends on what wheel/hub/cog you are running

It actually has nothing to do with that and depends much more on how much crank clearance your frame has.

At any rate, the difference between using a 108 and 110.5mm is a whopping .75mm per side. If one doesn't work there a really good chance the other won't either.

Unkle Rico 12-16-14 12:19 PM

Thats why i said "i think" :thumb:


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17393435)
It actually has nothing to do with that and depends much more on how much crank clearance your frame has.

At any rate, the difference between using a 108 and 110.5mm is a whopping .75mm per side. If one doesn't work there a really good chance the other won't either.


cDiff Notorious 12-16-14 01:22 PM

Um I dont know how to measure crank clearance but I took some measurements using a tape measure hoping it will help.

bb shell - 68mm
rear drop out - 120.65
Ctr tube to ctr chain ring - 41.275
andel stock crank - 127 measured end to end closest to the bottom bracket.
frame to tip of crank - 5
the crank arm length itself is 170mm and im planning to replace it with 167.5

Scrodzilla 12-16-14 01:47 PM

You won't know until you try it.

I know a Wabi has plenty of clearance for Sugino 75s and the matching Sugino 109mm ISO BB so I don't see why you'd have any trouble.

TejanoTrackie 12-16-14 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17393435)
At any rate, the difference between using a 108 and 110.5mm is a whopping .75mm per side. If one doesn't work there a really good chance the other won't either.

Actually, it's 1.25mm per side, but that's still not very much. Anyways, if you want play it safe, then get the 110.5mm, although I can't imagine the 108mm not working, since the Sugino 75 OEM BB is 109mm, and is intended to fit track racing frames with fat chainstays that lack indentations.

cDiff Notorious 12-16-14 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17393708)
You won't know until you try it.

I know a Wabi has plenty of clearance for Sugino 75s and the matching Sugino 109mm ISO BB so I don't see why you'd have any trouble.

Oh ok. Thanks for the help guys!

Scrodzilla 12-16-14 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 17393728)
Actually, it's 1.25mm per side, but that's still not very much. Anyways, if you want play it safe, then get the 110.5mm, although I can't imagine the 108mm not working, since the Sugino 75 OEM BB is 109mm, and is intended to fit track racing frames with fat chainstays that lack indentations.

Derp!

I'm using a Phil Wood 108mm BB with 75s on my Thunderdome and it's perfect.

IAmSam 12-17-14 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 17392760)
Yes, I'm using QR skewers with my Wabi wheelset, and it's as simple as using them instead of the bolts.

Despite my misgivings, you are absolutely correct...I put a skewer thru the front axle and it fit very loosely in there so I figured it wouldn't work right, but when I put the wheel into the dropout & tighten it up - the damned thing spins smoothly.

Thanx, I appreciate your help...

BrooklynTrack 12-30-14 09:07 AM

I have a Steel Specialized Langster, am picking up an Sram Ominum crankset for it.

I have been told a Chris King BB would be a great fit and smooth ride.

I plan on having my LBS install it, but what size do I order?

Can I just get this? Chris King GXP Bottom Bracket Road Sram

ALSO: are there better/ cheaper options?

I did my best to research and read but don't want to mess this up.

Thanks!

50voltphantom 12-30-14 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 17392760)
Yes, I'm using QR skewers with my Wabi wheelset, and it's as simple as using them instead of the bolts. The front wheel uses a 100mm QR, same as any geared bike with a QR wheel. The rear will require a 126mm long QR as a minimum, and it should be an internal cam design that is meant to develop sufficient clamping force to keep the the axle from slipping in a horizontal dropout. I still had problems keeping the wheel from moving on mine, and ended up using a Surly Tugnut and a modern 130mm external cam QR.

As to replacing the axles, I don't think it's possible, but perhaps Richard at Wabi would be a better person to ask this question.

Thanks for this. I plan on using a trainer and a Wabi rear with a skewer might be the ticket to getting my bike to fit in the trainer. Does anyone know if you can do the same thing with a Phil hub?

Scrodzilla 12-30-14 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by 50voltphantom (Post 17426255)
Thanks for this. I plan on using a trainer and a Wabi rear with a skewer might be the ticket to getting my bike to fit in the trainer.

Why go through the trouble? Just use a set of these.

Drastry 12-30-14 01:15 PM

Can I install 23c tires on stock wheels which had 25c tires installed?

TenSpeedV2 12-30-14 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Drastry (Post 17426517)
Can I install 23c tires on stock wheels which had 25c tires installed?

Yes

50voltphantom 01-07-15 09:10 AM

Concor Supercorsa or Concor Light?

Scrodzilla 01-07-15 10:07 AM

They're both contoured exactly the same. One is lighter than the other.

IAmSam 01-07-15 10:25 AM

Yeah, the sitting area is the same but side configuration is different. I recently started riding an early model Concor Light which has a slimmer profile than the modern repop does, and am enjoying it immensely.

50voltphantom 01-07-15 10:38 AM

I'm torn between the two. Supercorsa looks better overall, Light is lighter, looks good too. I'm using the Origin8 lookalike currently and I like that type of contour and want to step up to the real deal.

Scrodzilla 01-07-15 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by IAmSam (Post 17449053)
Yeah, the sitting area is the same but side configuration is different. I recently started riding an early model Concor Light which has a slimmer profile than the modern repop does, and am enjoying it immensely.

I've used both and my butt can't tell the difference between the two.

50voltphantom 01-07-15 12:37 PM

^^Good to know. I appreciate the info!

europa 01-07-15 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 17449121)
I've used both and my butt can't tell the difference between the two.

Does that mean you hated both for exactly the same reasons? :innocent:

Scrodzilla 01-08-15 10:53 AM

Nope, I love Concor saddles. Those and Turbos are still my favorites.


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