What Track Hubs Are Approved For Radial Lacing?
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What Track Hubs Are Approved For Radial Lacing?
Thinking about building a set, and yes some of my motivation is looks ( I like radial lacing) I want to do radial in the front either 28 or 32 and on the rear I want to do radial on the drive and 2X on the non drive, probably on velocity rims, but I want to know what track hub flanges can take radial lacing?
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aren't those polish ones that vopobl (or whatever his handle is) approved for radial too?
here's the thread https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...highlight=mack
here's the thread https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...highlight=mack
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Originally Posted by fastbub
...on the rear I want to do radial on the drive and 2X on the non drive...
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Originally Posted by rvabiker
what exactly is radial?
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Originally Posted by trespasser
do it the other way at least if you are riding at all...
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All solid disk hub like Phil, Suntour will be okay for radially laced. Any hub like most Campy that have cut out will not be the best candidated for radially laced.
But hey I have seen many campy laced radially and they look fine if you not riding your bike too hard.
But hey I have seen many campy laced radially and they look fine if you not riding your bike too hard.
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another question:
what benifits are there from radial lacing?
or is it just cause it looks .....BADASS! ?
what benifits are there from radial lacing?
or is it just cause it looks .....BADASS! ?
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Originally Posted by fastbub
From what I understand the torque load is shifted to the non-drive side since the hub is awfully stiff
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Originally Posted by trespasser
ask mavic why they are doing it wrong way...
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Originally Posted by sr20det
another question:
what benifits are there from radial lacing?
or is it just cause it looks .....BADASS! ?
what benifits are there from radial lacing?
or is it just cause it looks .....BADASS! ?
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Originally Posted by cavernmech
Using a pre-built wheel-set as an example is not a good reference. All the components in wheels such as these are engineered to work the way they do. Radial lacing on the drive side of a home built wheel is asking for trouble IMHO.
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Originally Posted by sr20det
another question:
what benifits are there from radial lacing?
or is it just cause it looks .....BADASS! ?
what benifits are there from radial lacing?
or is it just cause it looks .....BADASS! ?
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my lbs built my front radial. I forgot to tell him to make it 2x and when I picked them up, the front was radial and he said it makes it plenty stiff. I actually hate how they look but as long as it's sturdy and stong, I'll be fine. I'm interested in those hubs fron europe, the keirin shop ones.
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from zipp.com
"The result is a hub that can be laced radial, one, two, three, or four cross to any spoke tension, and rebuilt as many times as you feel like it with absolutely no chance of cracking or failure in the flange. While most hub manufacturers void their warranty if you radial lace with their hubs, we encourage it."
"The result is a hub that can be laced radial, one, two, three, or four cross to any spoke tension, and rebuilt as many times as you feel like it with absolutely no chance of cracking or failure in the flange. While most hub manufacturers void their warranty if you radial lace with their hubs, we encourage it."
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Originally Posted by fastbub
Thinking about building a set, and yes some of my motivation is looks ( I like radial lacing) I want to do radial in the front either 28 or 32 and on the rear I want to do radial on the drive and 2X on the non drive, probably on velocity rims, but I want to know what track hub flanges can take radial lacing?
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Originally Posted by trespasser
ask mavic why they are doing it wrong way...
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Originally Posted by BostonFixed
FYI: Some mavic ksyriums (older models maybe?) are built radial drive side, 2x non driveside.
this page: https://www.geocities.com/spokeanwheel/lacingsr.htm talks about how radial drive-side lacing makes sense, not radial non-drive lacing.
but cavernmech had it right-- wheels that are engineered by computers and robots from the future aren't a good frame of reference for wheels such as the kind we're talking about.
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So while it seems like the Zipps encourage radial lacing, does radial lacing void the warantee on Phil high flange track hubs? I searched and couldn't find the answer.
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Yeah one thing about alot of mavic wheels though is that the hubs/spokes are made differently. The spokes are perfectly straight (i.e: no little bend where the go in to the hub) and therefore can't crack the wee tiny little amount of metal holding them in. They can also be laced significantly tighter to allow for less spokes and radial spoking that will get you a noticeably stiffer wheel.
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Originally Posted by fastbub
From what I understand the torque load is shifted to the non-drive side since the hub is awfully stiff
That said, it probably is a better idea to keep the leading and lagging "dynamic" spokes closer to the drivechain.