Yeah, I'm with CC on this... the paragraph ahead of this had good points, but sweeping stereotypes is what started this whole cluster****.

ah...well...that's too bad...

cause...you're wrong...I'm right :roflmao: :roflmao:

I want Shants to play the part of Walter.

They can tell me lots of things but I can't see eye to eye.

sounds like you guys have been eating whineburgers and frenchcries....

...

holy **** ass ****. this thread is dumb. many fixed riders ride like maniacs a lot of the time. surprise, surprise. you all do it, i do it. it's ****ing sweet. some people prefer that everyone be 100% safe all of the time. **** that. risks are the jam, especially when they are minimized by one's skill at riding.

it's pretty obvious that expatriate is a bit antagonistic toward this sort of thing - to each their own, i say - but his comment in the advocacy thread wasn't loaded with the sort of ire and zealous disdain that people here are claiming. if anything, it came off like an old man *****ing about "those crazy kids these days" or some such ****. it's the sort of thing that no one cares about. i sure as hell don't and you shouldn't either. he seems to be a bit of a ******, but not an anti-fixed crusader. it oughtn't be a surprise to you that many people in the other forums are ******s and aren't into fixed. that's why they are in the other forums.

horsepucky again - funny how you folks rail against expat about his alleged stereotype, then turn around and do some stereotyping of your own. Pot-Kettle-Black

Ah more stereotypes. You just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper, dontcha. Nobody but you has ever rode fixed or brakeless and nobody but you has ever lived or commuted in NYC. Get real.

its kinda funny that shants, somewhere in between the 40 billion *'s makes more sense in 5 sentences than all other people make in 4 pages of inane banter.

I'm with Expatriate on this although it surprises me to hear myself say so, because I thought all Australians were wreckless thrill seeking, bungie jumping, Crocodile wrestling cheap thrill seekers.

All he had to do was show me a picture of his kids, and now I know he's alright. Of course those rotten kids of his... that's a different story. Lousy skateboarding thrill seeking wreckless little road monkies! Tell them to get off my LAWN!

all i see are a ton of sterotypes by teiaperigosa himself. he's trying to call out expat, but is spewing the exact same stuff himself. and he doesn't seem to realize it. how sad. you don't fight skewed points of view with skewed points of view.

how about just speaking directly?

so, you've ridden fixed, brakeless, in NYC for how long?...just flat out and say it next time

regardless...it doesn't take the experience of riding fixed, brakeless to know how NYC riders ride...even before ever hearing about 'fix', I'd seen glimpses of phantom types slipping through traffic with bare handlebars, and I'd even tried to catch up to some... ****, even before riding a bike, as a street smart new yorker, I made plenty observations about bike riding in the city, and I'm from, grew up, and live in NYC...how's that?:

as NYC is my domain, the comments I make are mostly related to fixed gear riding in this intense urban environment...my observations and personal experiences( :D ) are well founded (call them stereotypes if you want...doesn't matter)
besides, while there are many that aren't, often times, stereotypes are true...

plus...no one was debating the rebel manner of fixie riders that expat was insinuating...or at least I wasn't...you should relitify yourself too

Megathread!


Buck up, kiddies!

read my above post....relitify yourself...go back and try to discern the sentiment of my comments...

in fact, go back and read my post in the Advocacy thread...then come back and see me

Well I know they know the way I think, I know they always will. Some day I'm gonna change my mind, sometimes I'd rather kill.

"relitify" -- what in the **** is that?

BLOODSTAINS, SPEED KILLS!

FAST CARS, CHEAP THRILLS!

RICH GIRLS, FINE WINE!

I'VE LOST MY SENSE, I'VE LOST CONTROL, I'VE LOST MY MIND!

F***ING FINALLY! Thank you shants!

:roflmao:
a word that I just created to communicated to the functionally illiterate in order to reach out to them in a way they can understand, so as to encourage them to re-up their reading comprehension skills

Shants, I'm glad you post. I hope you make it to at least one TdC race this winter, I'll definitly buy you a beer.

well, i went back and read and i still have the same opinion. whatever, though, it doesn't matter. good luck getting high and riding around the city. maybe i'll be one of those pedestrians you scream at. that'll be nice.

WTF should I have to say anything? Want my resume, a note from my Mommy, my autobiography, perhaps some nice mass marketing materials? HA! I got nothing to prove to some wet behind the ears kid who obviously don't know shiite from shinola. If you ain't figured out that lots of other people in the world have actually been around the block a few times, unlike yourself, that's your own problem. Perhaps you should add a line to your sig - "Please don't reply to me without supplying a resume, so I don't make a fool out of myself"

Blubber, blubber, whine, whine - wtf cares where you live or what you ride? NYC ain't your domain, you just happen to live there...in the grand scheme of NYC you ain't but a flea on it's arse. Obviously you have mistaken me for someone who cares - so much for your claims of being street smart, eh?

on a scale of dumbness, this thread ranks among the bottom compared to a lot of threads on this forum IMO [notice, dumbness is inversely related to importance, and importance is determined by personal preference]....
comments about riding?...they have been said throughout this thread....I totally agree

not sure where you got the accusations of ire and zealous disdain, but...many's gripes were very pointed in simply asserting the value of all riders to a crazed motorist (despite how he many not value you if you don't meet his stereotypes)and that that value shouldn't have to be justified to the driver regardless of whether you meet his expectation of 'family values', or whatever else...again, I'll make reference to chimbly's well-put come-back

his comments did come off like an old man rambling, but...some of us do care (if only in the least in our willingness to practice arguing against these what we may consider ingorant mentalities)...after all, an old man just flattened an old woman biker riding with her grandson out in the boondies[see Advocacy forum?]...are ramblings of old men to be ignored?

with that said, people would have been less inclined to argue so vehemently (or maybe I should just speak for myself) if expat hadn't tried to come up with a bull-ish justification for how he said it

anyways...this forum thing can be intersting...be it what it may