when the axle is too short for the frame
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when the axle is too short for the frame
so i just put my wheelset on a different frame
but the axle is just a little too short for it.
*and by little short i mean 1/2"*
what can i do? would it be terribly bad for the
frame to bend a little so i can put the wheelset on?
i really want to use this frame but im worried that its unsafe
but the axle is just a little too short for it.
*and by little short i mean 1/2"*
what can i do? would it be terribly bad for the
frame to bend a little so i can put the wheelset on?
i really want to use this frame but im worried that its unsafe
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Spacers and possibly new axle if the frame is Al, cold set i.e. bend the frame if it's steel. See Sheldonland for more info.
You need to know and tell us the type of hub and axle, and frame to get a precise answer as to what can be done. Hub spacing? Frame spacing?
You need to know and tell us the type of hub and axle, and frame to get a precise answer as to what can be done. Hub spacing? Frame spacing?
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Originally Posted by LóFarkas
Spacers and possibly new axle if the frame is Al, cold set i.e. bend the frame if it's steel. See Sheldonland for more info.
You need to know and tell us the type of hub and axle, and frame to get a precise answer as to what can be done. Hub spacing? Frame spacing?
You need to know and tell us the type of hub and axle, and frame to get a precise answer as to what can be done. Hub spacing? Frame spacing?
its a bianchi brava
type of hub is a no name flip/flop
type of axle im not sure what you mean
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Originally Posted by [165]
seek out a longer replacement axle for the rear hub (if one is available).
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Bianchi Brava is indeed steel. Does it have horizontal drop outs? (The current ones have verticle but perhaps the older ones have horizontal, check sheldonbrown's webpage for information on the dropouts and the problems with verticle dropouts).
What kind of hub is it?
What kind of hub is it?
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Originally Posted by riotboy
isnt that gonna cost a lot if i take it to a bike shop? cause i doubt i can replace it myself
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Originally Posted by gorn
Bianchi Brava is indeed steel. Does it have horizontal drop outs? (The current ones have verticle but perhaps the older ones have horizontal, check sheldonbrown's webpage for information on the dropouts and the problems with verticle dropouts).
What kind of hub is it?
What kind of hub is it?
what do you mean by KIND of hub???
its a no name flip/flop hub *as i said above*
drop-outs are vertical
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Originally Posted by SyntaxPC
If the axel on your hub is long enough, you can just get it re-spaced, which should cost $5--$10 at your LBS. If your hub axel isn't long enough, you'll either need to cold set the frame (which you can do yourself (see Sheldon Brown's website for instructions)) or you will need to get a longer axel and re-space that. Either way, it's not a very expensive modification.
the axle on my hub isnt long enough
sheldon brown only has instructions for widening the frame
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Originally Posted by riotboy
sheldon brown only has instructions for widening the frame
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if it is a half inch and i undersand you right (you just need the dropouts to come together a little more) than just do it....
you probably have an old road frame with 126mm dropouts and a standard 120mm fixed hub. same as on the schwinn i ride everyday. no coldsetting neccessary just pop the hub on and tighten the bolts.
you probably have an old road frame with 126mm dropouts and a standard 120mm fixed hub. same as on the schwinn i ride everyday. no coldsetting neccessary just pop the hub on and tighten the bolts.
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Originally Posted by riotboy
thanks for your help 

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Originally Posted by max-a-mill
if it is a half inch and i undersand you right (you just need the dropouts to come together a little more) than just do it....
you probably have an old road frame with 126mm dropouts and a standard 120mm fixed hub. same as on the schwinn i ride everyday. no coldsetting neccessary just pop the hub on and tighten the bolts.
you probably have an old road frame with 126mm dropouts and a standard 120mm fixed hub. same as on the schwinn i ride everyday. no coldsetting neccessary just pop the hub on and tighten the bolts.
well its so wide that i have to bend it to even put the nut on the end
i was just worried that i could brake something
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Originally Posted by riotboy
hmmmmm how?
https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=105
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Originally Posted by riotboy
hmmmmm how?
Well if u suffer of mechanic DOWN sindrome...take the bike to your LBS and pay 50 bucks for the repair... because u really deserve to pay them for something so obvious an easy to do...
darn.... !!
ps: I bet this guy is a surgeon, he knows to do a heart transplant... but he cant use his brain to figure it out how to use a wrench because he is afraid of damage something... bang! If thats the case come here I need 100 bucks, I'll do the job 4'ya!... sorry for sound so bad person but... it is too much sometimes...
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Originally Posted by ultraman6970
Common man... u dont know how to use a pair of wrenches and then figure it out?... u cant figure it out how to turn 4 bolts using a wrench**********??? isn't that hard u know... even my wife knows how to use a wrench u know and she is in the IT stuff...
Well if u suffer of mechanic DOWN sindrome...take the bike to your LBS and pay 50 bucks for the repair... because u really deserve to pay them for something so obvious an easy to do...
darn.... !!
ps: I bet this guy is a surgeon, he knows to do a heart transplant... but he cant use his brain to figure it out how to use a wrench because he is afraid of damage something... bang! If thats the case come here I need 100 bucks, I'll do the job 4'ya!... sorry for sound so bad person but... it is too much sometimes...
Well if u suffer of mechanic DOWN sindrome...take the bike to your LBS and pay 50 bucks for the repair... because u really deserve to pay them for something so obvious an easy to do...
darn.... !!
ps: I bet this guy is a surgeon, he knows to do a heart transplant... but he cant use his brain to figure it out how to use a wrench because he is afraid of damage something... bang! If thats the case come here I need 100 bucks, I'll do the job 4'ya!... sorry for sound so bad person but... it is too much sometimes...
dude **** off
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Originally Posted by SyntaxPC
Here's a pretty good tutorial on taking apart a hub:
https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=105
https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=105
thanks!
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That's where the question "what type of hub" comes in. It's not possible to change the axle in all of them, 'cos many have funny axles that the manufacturer doesn't make in all lengths. Yours being a cheapo, it probably has cup and cone bearings and a standard 10mm axle with a 1mm thread, which is the easiest situation. Read around on sheldonbrown.com as well, then take the axle out and take it to a shop and tell them to get a longer one, and the required length of spacers.
BTW, it's much easier to respace the frame... and then it will accept any new track hub you may buy in the future.
My guess is that you have a 120 hub and a 135 frame, but you should whip out a ruler and check.
BTW, it's much easier to respace the frame... and then it will accept any new track hub you may buy in the future.
My guess is that you have a 120 hub and a 135 frame, but you should whip out a ruler and check.
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I agree w/u LóFarkas, there r a lot of questions that we dont know, maybe he has an old frame, those 110 mms (keiring style) and he is trying to put the wheel in a 130 mms bike...
The next point is that he suffers of mechanic Down syndrome, so maybe he knows how to use the ruler to measure his jhonson but he wont find the way to measure the frame rear end spacing nor the hub spacing...
The next point is that he suffers of mechanic Down syndrome, so maybe he knows how to use the ruler to measure his jhonson but he wont find the way to measure the frame rear end spacing nor the hub spacing...
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