Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
Reload this Page >

What's your pedal strike angle?

Search
Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)
View Poll Results: what's your pedal strike angle?
25-30: I need training wheels to take corners
21.05%
31-33
10.53%
34-36
5.26%
37-39
0
0%
40-42
0
0%
43-45
15.79%
46-48
10.53%
49-51
5.26%
52-54
5.26%
55-60: pedal strike means I just lost traction
26.32%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

What's your pedal strike angle?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-15-06 | 05:04 PM
  #26  
yonderboy's Avatar
Lurker for Life
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
From: PDX
My setup: 59cm Soma Rush (58mm BB drop), 170mm Sugino 75 cranks, SPD-Rs

I know my pedal strike angle is over 43, because that's the angle of the banks on my track. A quick back of the envelope calculation puts me around 50deg, with the q-factor of my cranks, 700x23 radius, and pedal length.
yonderboy is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 05:06 PM
  #27  
ink1373's Avatar
nothing: lasts forever
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,502
Likes: 2
From: minneapolis
Originally Posted by eddiebrannan
nerds
i agree. i've never understood people with a mind that thinks that this sort of information translates to real life.

but whatever. i'd rather ride than analyze riding. maybe i'm demented.
ink1373 is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 05:07 PM
  #28  
jo5iah's Avatar
chopsockey
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 253
Likes: 0
From: Seattle

Bikes: Monkey SS everythingbike, Ti frankenroadbike

43 is the angle of your track, but presumably it's not flat and then all of the sudden angled, like this: _/
Nor are you riding on said shape near the bottom of the abrupt transition from 43 to 0. The angled part of the track is flat when you're on it.
jo5iah is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 05:09 PM
  #29  
baxtefer's Avatar
Cornucopia of Awesomeness
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,847
Likes: 0
From: not where i used to be
Originally Posted by yonderboy
My setup: 59cm Soma Rush (58mm BB drop), 170mm Sugino 75 cranks, SPD-Rs

I know my pedal strike angle is over 43, because that's the angle of the banks on my track. A quick back of the envelope calculation puts me around 50deg, with the q-factor of my cranks, 700x23 radius, and pedal length.
yonder, you're not riding perpendicular to the ground when you're on the track.
baxtefer is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 05:12 PM
  #30  
yonderboy's Avatar
Lurker for Life
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
From: PDX
Originally Posted by jo5iah
Personally, you got me thinking about solving the real problem:
F(x,y) = ?
x = lean angle
y = wheel angle
Given: BB height, crank length, pedal height, q-factor, wheelbase, wheel size

I think it would make a pretty picture.
I used, given :
Radius of wheel : R
BB drop : d
Crank length : l
Q-factor : Q
Pedal length: p

Height of pedal at lowest point : d = R - d - l
End of pedal : e = (Q / 2) + p [ this is a little fudged, because it's not quite accurate ]

So with a right triangle, we're going to solve for the angle D.

That should be pretty close, unless I've forgotten my math.
yonderboy is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 05:28 PM
  #31  
jo5iah's Avatar
chopsockey
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 253
Likes: 0
From: Seattle

Bikes: Monkey SS everythingbike, Ti frankenroadbike

i agree. i've never understood people with a mind that thinks that this sort of information translates to real life.

but whatever. i'd rather ride than analyze riding. maybe i'm demented.
it beats working. if i could ride around the office, i would...

that said - i'm definitely a nerd. math is way cool.
jo5iah is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 05:41 PM
  #32  
baxtefer's Avatar
Cornucopia of Awesomeness
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,847
Likes: 0
From: not where i used to be
Originally Posted by yonderboy
I used, given :
Radius of wheel : R
BB drop : d
Crank length : l
Q-factor : Q
Pedal length: p

Height of pedal at lowest point : d = R - d - l
End of pedal : e = (Q / 2) + p [ this is a little fudged, because it's not quite accurate ]

So with a right triangle, we're going to solve for the angle D.

That should be pretty close, unless I've forgotten my math.
you're assuming your pedals have zero thickness.
baxtefer is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 05:47 PM
  #33  
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 363
Likes: 0
From: Baltimore, MD

Bikes: 1989 trek 330 fixed gear conversion, fuji something

WakeUpOnFire is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 05:55 PM
  #34  
marcelinyc's Avatar
R900Campagnolo
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 884
Likes: 0
From: Brooklyn

Bikes: track and road

when i ride through a turn on a local velodrome i hit the asphalt with my right pedal on every revolution. It goes : boom...boom....booom....boom...boom....until the straight.
marcelinyc is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 06:57 PM
  #35  
yonderboy's Avatar
Lurker for Life
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
From: PDX
Originally Posted by baxtefer
you're assuming your pedals have zero thickness.
Sorry, I didn't realize this was a dick-waving thread. Thanks for correcting my rough approximation.
yonderboy is offline  
Reply
Old 03-15-06 | 08:22 PM
  #36  
Aeroplane's Avatar
jack of one or two trades
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,640
Likes: 0
From: Suburbia, CT

Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB

Originally Posted by yonderboy
Sorry, I didn't realize this was a dick-waving thread. Thanks for correcting my rough approximation.
ha ha ha ha ha, it was a dick waving thread as soon as the third post complained that the original formula didn't account for tire compression.

I'm too lazy to find a measuring tape, let alone measure my bikes and do math. I'm going to guesstimate a 60 degree lean for each.
Aeroplane is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.