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Old 04-14-06, 12:42 PM
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how far back in the dropouts can one go?

before its a problem or you have to shorten you chain - which i don't want to do since i have a fixed/fixed hub and then the other side would be too tight (one cog is 16 the other 19). with the 16 it's all the way to the back with the nut peaking over the dropouts (sorry no pic). thanks.
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I wouldn't feel comfortable having less than the width of the axle behind the axel itself. Thats just me though.
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Thats just me though.
no, no its not.
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half links.
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As long as the entire track nut is in contact with the drop out you should be ok.
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half link, maybe? sounds like you have really shallow track ends, what kind of frame is it?
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half link, maybe? sounds like you have really shallow track ends, what kind of frame is it?
de bernardi. and yeah, they seem kind of short to me.
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To brashly piggy-back my own question on this thread, how long are most people's track ends? The slots on mine run 40mm.
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Mine are 50
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mine are short! ~32mm (columbus track ends)
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I'd say as long as none of the nut is hanging out into nowhere you should be fine. If one link shorter would make the other gear no longer work right, then you're goona need a halflink, which requires a 1/8" chain (I don't know of any 3/32" half links).
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Originally Posted by thurstonboise
As long as the entire track nut is in contact with the drop out you should be ok.
hmmm...i may put a couple links back in my chain. my axle is way toward the other end of the dropout after swapping chainrings. then again, i guess that really hurts nothing.
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Originally Posted by humancongereel
hmmm...i may put a couple links back in my chain. my axle is way toward the other end of the dropout after swapping chainrings. then again, i guess that really hurts nothing.
I can't see how that would matter. As long as you have enough room on that end to get the wheel off you're set.
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I like to keep my rear wheel as far in as I possibly can. I find handling to be a little better with the wheel scooted forward.
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yeah, i know. i was thinking "center = optimum", so i felt weird with it that far forward. but it's nice handling, if it slides forward in the dropouts, it might actually stop before reaching the chain-throwing point. i can't think of a downside, it just feels weird to me.
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Originally Posted by MacG
I'd say as long as none of the nut is hanging out into nowhere you should be fine. If one link shorter would make the other gear no longer work right, then you're goona need a halflink, which requires a 1/8" chain (I don't know of any 3/32" half links).
https://www.webcyclery.com/product.ph...cat=441&page=1

1/8th and 3/32nd half-links.
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Originally Posted by MacG
If one link shorter would make the other gear no longer work right, then you're goona need a halflink, which requires a 1/8" chain (I don't know of any 3/32" half links).

I bought a 3/32 half link from Harris Cyclery in November. They probably still have them.
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If you need more adjustability than your dropouts will give, get 2 SRAM powerlinks. Put one on the traditional way and then do the second one up on a little piece of extra chain with however many links you need and you can have as much difference between your cogs as you want.
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my axle is pretty much all the way forward in the dropout. there is less than a finger between the tire and the seattube, and only just enough wiggle room to remove the chain without breaking the chain.

perfect, in other words
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Originally Posted by lz4005
If you need more adjustability than your dropouts will give, get 2 SRAM powerlinks. Put one on the traditional way and then do the second one up on a little piece of extra chain with however many links you need and you can have as much difference between your cogs as you want.
Thats actually a really neat idea!
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Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave
To brashly piggy-back my own question on this thread, how long are most people's track ends? The slots on mine run 40mm.
40mm (Pake)
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Originally Posted by dmc
mine are short! ~32mm (columbus track ends)
same here.
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i like to keep it as far forward as possible. the reason being to lessen the likelyhood that the chain gets thrown should the axle slip
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