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Old 04-20-06, 04:51 AM
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Freight Baggage L backpack held 3 file boxes for me the other day, two inside, one strapped on with compression straps. I've tried all the backpacks, and this one kills it.

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a 129 active bag threads in this forum and this is the most useful non redunant one so far. make it a sticky
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Originally Posted by FlippingHades
Um, with scissors? I have a great pair of kitchen shears that works very well with heavy fabrics. Although all the cutting of cordura I've done has dulled them a bit -- it's time for a proper pair of shears. I draw the pattern on the backside with pencil and a yardstick. messenger bag patterns are simple enough that it only takes me a couple of minutes to mark one out now, without any fancy-pants aids.

I'm using what's basically a beefed up home machine (Singer CG-500). It has an "industrial strength" (1/2 HP) motor and better build quality, but lacks a walking foot. I'm currently looking around at proper high-power industrial machines. My current machine is up to the task for the most part, but is a bit *twitchy* with the more extreme aspects. I've been lusting after Sailrite and Pfaff and Juki.

I keep getting the "I Dream of Jeannie" theme song stuck in my head, only my version is "I Dream of Juki"....
Heh, sorry... as for the patterns, I meant how did you initially rough out your designs? Did you just get some butcher paper and sample cut some patterns? Also, where did you learn to sew? As you can tell, I'm a bag nerd, and I have a few ideas of things that might make sense/work in a bag that I'd love to give a try... and I work down the block from a shop that refurbs industrial sewing machines
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thanks for the post sashae
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Originally Posted by sers
theres a non negligible amount of times that I need to carry larger or odd sized loads, be it more groceries, laundry or beer that i can cram in the chrome. I'm looking to get a very large bag.
dude, don't get another bag. make do with less. it's all about minimalism. that's why we ride fixed i thought. or make more trips--that way ya get to ride more.
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thanks sashae, but can you use the Adorable Kitten Capacity?
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I've got 3 full sized cats... what's the cat/kitten conversion rate? I think the difficulty is going to be more in the "keeping all cats in the bag and looking cute while I try to take a picture" more than anything else...

I'd love to see more photos of bags we don't see much of -- Push the Envelope, Bagjack, Bagaboo, new DeMartini, etc.
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I posted a bunch of Freight pictures a while back, but this one gives an idea of the size of Travis' medium bag:



Which would probably make the bag in the lower right corner of this photo a Large:

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Originally Posted by MAK
If you "love" your Citizen...why not buy a Metropolis or Kremlin?
2 reasons:

1) Chrome bags are shallow and long. This is great for an around the town bag, but it can be a hassle trying to get some things in them.

2) I've carried some really heavy loads, and the single strap can be really uncomfortable. I'm looking for a dual strap design.
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I thought the thread title read "Battle Of The Giant Bugs" and got excited. Imagine my dissapointment...
 
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To add to the record, here are some pictures of my RELoad Courier, next to various desk crap for scale.

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I thought about getting one of these for larger loads.

From: OrtliebUSA

The waterproof ORTLIEB Messenger Bag is part of the well dressed courier’s essential gear. It stands out because of its high volume, its unsurpassed durability and the quality of the materials used. Comfortable padded shoulder straps with reflective stripes, waist and sternum straps and padded foam back serve for best comfort. Two large 3M Scotchlite reflectors on the sides.
Inner pocket for pens and papers can also be added or used on the waist strap
Further accessories: velcro extension (for transporting large, bulky deliveries), holsters for cell phone, walkie talkie and U-lock, organizer (sturdy document organizer that snaps in).
Messenger Bags are ideal for screen printing.
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Originally Posted by sashae
Heh, sorry... as for the patterns, I meant how did you initially rough out your designs? Did you just get some butcher paper and sample cut some patterns? Also, where did you learn to sew? As you can tell, I'm a bag nerd, and I have a few ideas of things that might make sense/work in a bag that I'd love to give a try... and I work down the block from a shop that refurbs industrial sewing machines
Oh, I started with some scale mockups out of newspaper to get the basic shape down - draw, cut, fold, tape. Then I made a few out of old sheets that would otherwise have been thrown away. Those were only marginally useful for sizing, because old sheets don't behave anything like cordura in terms of how they fold and sit on your body. I also took every bag I in the house and turned them all inside out to see how they were constructed. You've got a pretty good research library going there

My grandmother taught me a few basics of sewing when I was about 10, but beyond that I'm self taught.

As you can tell, I'm a bag nerd, and I have a few ideas of things that might make sense/work in a bag that I'd love to give a try... and I work down the block from a shop that refurbs industrial sewing machines
That's exactly how I got started on this obsession
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Late to the conversation as usual, but I think I've got everyone beat.


Arena Baggage and Bicycle Works Custom Extra Large Bag

Ridiculously huge, and yet surprisingly manageable and comfortable. Feels small when empty, and not too unwieldy when full.



Capacity: A case (12) 32 oz bottles (40's are illegal in Florida) and 7 Sparks with some room to spare.



Probably should have taken the box out of the bag, as the corners were digging into my back. The gas station guys actually supplied the sparks for free just to see if they could fit. Huge bags get you free booze.
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Originally Posted by mikearena
Late to the conversation as usual, but I think I've got everyone beat.


Arena Baggage and Bicycle Works Custom Extra Large Bag

Ridiculously huge, and yet surprisingly manageable and comfortable. Feels small when empty, and not too unwieldy when full.



Capacity: A case (12) 32 oz bottles (40's are illegal in Florida) and 7 Sparks with some room to spare.



Probably should have taken the box out of the bag, as the corners were digging into my back. The gas station guys actually supplied the sparks for free just to see if they could fit. Huge bags get you free booze.
let me guess...a lil'champ purchase? i can't imagine any other place hooking you up like that.
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Originally Posted by sashae
I've got 3 full sized cats... what's the cat/kitten conversion rate?
I'd like to figure out the cat/beer conversion rate, actually ...
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Originally Posted by mikearena
Late to the conversation as usual, but I think I've got everyone beat.
Arena Baggage and Bicycle Works Custom Extra Large Bag
What's the strap system like on that? Do you have a link?
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OK, when I get home tonight I'm empty my entire booze cabinet into my bag . Of course, at that point the contents will be worth about 10 times more than the bag, so I ain't gonna be riding with it.
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anybody got any decent pics of the reload back pack?
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All of these bags look f-in' sweet but I'm still going to have to go with the Bailey Works Super Pro. I've got an X Large and haven't had any troubles with loads. The strap mech. is also very sweet... easy tightening and loosening on the fly and the shoulder pad is really comfortable too. I also like that fact that when its empty it lies really flat up against your back instead of stickin' out all willy-nilly all over the place like other bags that will remain nameless (timbuk2). I also like that fact that it has so many compartments... its like an adventure everytime you look inside... always finding new places, little nooks and cranies that you didn't think existed before. Um... yeah... my friend has a Large bag and fit 10 lbs of ice in it along with 30 20oz PBRs... I dunno. It looked impressive. Alright... now I'm just rambling.
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Originally Posted by daibutsusan73
I thought about getting one of these for larger loads.

From: OrtliebUSA

The waterproof ORTLIEB Messenger Bag is part of the well dressed courier’s essential gear. It stands out because of its high volume, its unsurpassed durability and the quality of the materials used. Comfortable padded shoulder straps with reflective stripes, waist and sternum straps and padded foam back serve for best comfort. Two large 3M Scotchlite reflectors on the sides.
Inner pocket for pens and papers can also be added or used on the waist strap
Further accessories: velcro extension (for transporting large, bulky deliveries), holsters for cell phone, walkie talkie and U-lock, organizer (sturdy document organizer that snaps in).
Messenger Bags are ideal for screen printing.
i saw one in use earlier, and realized it's only slightly shallower than my backpack and just as tall when we both have our inner flaps pulled out.
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the arena bag looks good, too.
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Originally Posted by cityraincityst
All of these bags look f-in' sweet but I'm still going to have to go with the Bailey Works Super Pro. I've got an X Large and haven't had any troubles with loads. The strap mech. is also very sweet... easy tightening and loosening on the fly and the shoulder pad is really comfortable too. I also like that fact that when its empty it lies really flat up against your back instead of stickin' out all willy-nilly all over the place like other bags that will remain nameless (timbuk2). I also like that fact that it has so many compartments... its like an adventure everytime you look inside... always finding new places, little nooks and cranies that you didn't think existed before. Um... yeah... my friend has a Large bag and fit 10 lbs of ice in it along with 30 20oz PBRs... I dunno. It looked impressive. Alright... now I'm just rambling.

So is it easy to tighten and loosen on the fly with say, a dirty rack of pbr in it? Is the strap comfortable with a lot of weight on it? How stable is it when it's packed to the brim?

I'm looking for a bag to haul some serious ****, not for an english muffin.


The liner in that Arena bag looks sort of cheap - what is it made of? It reminds me of those blue crinkly polyurethane tarps.
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Originally Posted by sers
What's the strap system like on that? Do you have a link?
The strap system on that one is 2" seatbelt webbing like Chrome uses, but with a buckle like RELoad and maybe Zo uses. It works great, but the buckle eats the strap alive. I've switched to putting heavier, tougher, not-going-to-wear-out webbing that is taped on the edges for extra durability. The buckle never slips and it's pretty easy to adjust. Tucks out of the way nicely when riding too so as to avoid snagging mirrors and pedestrians.


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The liner in that Arena bag looks sort of cheap - what is it made of? It reminds me of those blue crinkly polyurethane tarps.
Yeah, that's my first bag. It is a standard truck tarp, which is surprisingly stiff and resilient. Regardless, all Arena bags now have the same super heavy duty 18oz. vinyl covered nylon that pretty much everybody else uses. That stuff smells like a new car too.

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the arena bag looks good, too.
Thanks! They've gotten a lot better after that one.
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Sash, do you realize you can increase your beer storage space almost twice as much if you take the beers out of the package? I easily fit 24 bottles in my Metropolis, although one cap twisted off a bottle on the bottom of the pile from some weird force. I guess it'd be more prudent to go for non-twist off bottles in the future...
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