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daily negativity:
chain tugs.... hate 'em.
is it really that hard to center a wheel with correct tension? |
It's not hard. They just make it easier.
They say NJS on them also. Bling. |
Originally Posted by kennethalan
It's not hard. They just make it easier.
They say NJS on them also. Bling. |
My UNO frame was 123 spaced so I should used them but I never did.
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they make it a little easier to center + tighten a wheel when you don't have the luxury or working in a repair stand.
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Originally Posted by raygunner
My UNO frame was 123 spaced so I should used them but I never did.
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i'm thinking i'm going to need a pair for the surly since no matter how tight i wrench on it, the chain always, always ends up bouncy and slack. not good.
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Originally Posted by sloppy robot
can you explain that? i didnt know spacing had anything to do with it.
The axle washer on the MKS chain tugs are 1.5mm thick each. 1.5 + 1.5 = 3mm Many Keirin frames have 123mm spacing. |
Originally Posted by Jose R
The axle washer on the MKS chain tugs are 1.5mm thick each.
1.5 + 1.5 = 3mm Many Keirin frames have 123mm spacing. |
i'm anti-tensioners. they're just clutter. i can tension my chain myself.
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tensioning and centering are a lot more precise with tugs. they also prevent the axle from slipping, making readjustment less frequent.
it's also a bit faster than the side to side tightning and loosening method |
Originally Posted by sloppy robot
ah.. i have heard that before.. but you could also just use hub spacers, ya?
Dude, I don't ride a conversion! Haha! But my point is that I never did use those silly MKS chain tugs. They'd never allow me to put the wheel all the way foward into the drops (know what I mean?). They subtracted from my fun. So on my UNO I just squeezed the extra 3mm together! Good times! |
PS - I do like the new MKS chain tugs more since you can used your finger, there's no need for a hex wrench. I also used to like those Surly ones too since they're simple.
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Originally Posted by sloppy robot
ah.. i have heard that before.. but you could also just use hub spacers, ya?
You could use bubblegum for all I care, but the point I was making is that some of the Keirin frames were spaced specifically for use of MKS chain tensioners. But my point is that I never did use those silly MKS chain tugs. They'd never allow me to put the wheel all the way foward into the drops (know what I mean?). MKS chain tensioners are useful. I never felt they hindered my ability to put my back wheel wherever I damn well pleased. i'm anti-tensioners. they're just clutter. i can tension my chain myself. The best system is the Paul Components track ends. My LBS mechanic loves them. The second best is MKS. |
Originally Posted by chimblysweep
i'm anti-tensioners. they're just clutter. i can tension my chain myself.
my bell, and blinkin' light on my seatpost are two too many things complicating a simple track bike. |
Oh no! Something functional! Hate! Hate!
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Can I get them in anodized Gold?
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Originally Posted by kennethalan
Can I get them in anodized Gold?
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****.
Anodized frame *****. |
Originally Posted by ~stella
i agree.
my bell, and blinkin' light on my seatpost are two too many things complicating a simple track bike. |
Originally Posted by sloppy robot
chain tugs.... hate 'em.
is it really that hard to center a wheel with correct tension? |
God, Hyper you are so ****ing lazy.
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I got an NJS stamp, now my rack and fenders are NJS. Bling.
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Oh yes, you *must* tighten your chain with a multi-step process that involves skill, time investment and practice. Otherwise, you're not true fixed-gear culture.
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certain wheels will slide forward no matter the amount of dry humping involved during nut tightening. the mavic ellipse is one good example. i have used mine on various frames, made of various materials and have been able to produce a droopy chain within a few minutes of riding on each. the super smooth locknut surface probably has something to do with it.
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