daily negativity:
 

chain tugs.... hate 'em.

is it really that hard to center a wheel with correct tension?

It's not hard. They just make it easier.



They say NJS on them also. Bling.

i guess you just have to weigh the bling factor of NJS against the fact that they make your previously bling track-ends look like a bad art school installation

My UNO frame was 123 spaced so I should used them but I never did.

they make it a little easier to center + tighten a wheel when you don't have the luxury or working in a repair stand.

can you explain that? i didnt know spacing had anything to do with it.

i'm thinking i'm going to need a pair for the surly since no matter how tight i wrench on it, the chain always, always ends up bouncy and slack. not good.

The axle washer on the MKS chain tugs are 1.5mm thick each.

1.5 + 1.5 = 3mm

Many Keirin frames have 123mm spacing.

ah.. i have heard that before.. but you could also just use hub spacers, ya?

i'm anti-tensioners. they're just clutter. i can tension my chain myself.

tensioning and centering are a lot more precise with tugs. they also prevent the axle from slipping, making readjustment less frequent.

it's also a bit faster than the side to side tightning and loosening method

Uh, hub spacers?!

Dude, I don't ride a conversion! Haha!

But my point is that I never did use those silly MKS chain tugs. They'd never allow me to put the wheel all the way foward into the drops (know what I mean?). They subtracted from my fun. So on my UNO I just squeezed the extra 3mm together! Good times!

PS - I do like the new MKS chain tugs more since you can used your finger, there's no need for a hex wrench. I also used to like those Surly ones too since they're simple.

You could use bubblegum for all I care, but the point I was making is that some of the Keirin frames were spaced specifically for use of MKS chain tensioners.

Why would you need your wheel all the way forward in the track ends?

MKS chain tensioners are useful. I never felt they hindered my ability to put my back wheel wherever I damn well pleased.

The MKS are nice and discrete. I can also tension my own chains, etc.

The best system is the Paul Components track ends. My LBS mechanic loves them. The second best is MKS.

i agree.

my bell, and blinkin' light on my seatpost are two too many things complicating a simple track bike.

Oh no! Something functional! Hate! Hate!

Can I get them in anodized Gold?

To match your new Suzue hubs

****.
Anodized frame *****.

pshh.. your seatpost is unnecessary, and so are your handlebars. what kind of chump can't ride no handed while standing on the pedals all day?

It's not "that hard" but it sure is nice to get dead-on precise chain tension and alignment effortlessly.

God, Hyper you are so ****ing lazy.

I got an NJS stamp, now my rack and fenders are NJS. Bling.

Oh yes, you *must* tighten your chain with a multi-step process that involves skill, time investment and practice. Otherwise, you're not true fixed-gear culture.

certain wheels will slide forward no matter the amount of dry humping involved during nut tightening. the mavic ellipse is one good example. i have used mine on various frames, made of various materials and have been able to produce a droopy chain within a few minutes of riding on each. the super smooth locknut surface probably has something to do with it.

preach

i like em cuz im lazy and they allow me to be precise. Also I think they look neat and it's not like they are very expensive.

that is an awesome interpretation of what i said...all im saying is i like trackends.. dont like chain tugs.. 2nd question.. how often are you all removing your backwheels? tru i ride a different bike on the street and track.. so i don't change gearing.. and i pump my tires on the reg. so get few flats.. i think my wheel comes off once every 2 months or so.. hardly a cause for a special tool...whatreyou chain tuggie people doinng with your back wheels? im being serious.. not a snotty ass

and then there is this guy.. um.. youre in the singlespeed forum.. hating on function is what we do...i save my function over fashion for my road bike.

Well, not being snotty at all either, there are many other causes of flats than just not pumping up to regulation psi.
That said, I'd say my rear wheel comes off maybe once a month. Repairing flats, cleaning, swapping cogs, etc...
To add to that, chain tensioners also prevent chains from loosing tension, which can also happen fairly regularly.