My LBS told me about a japanese frame that sell for $150 in japan and are around 1200 here in the US this is b/c japan doesnt ship these frames to the us, they are very nice fremes, does anyone know anything else about these frames, (nagasaki???kirins???)

Comic Genius.

Japanese don't make bicycles.

Yeah dude, I've got one, the brand is Magna, high tensile strength steel tubing, and it only weighs 48lbs.

and remember, if you're gonna look on ebay, a 3RENSHO is better than a 2RENSHO, but all the pros rode 4RENSHO frames....

We are all very punchy this evening...

You're in the wrong forum, duud - we only ride chinese frames.

You're LBS is wrong. My LBS told me that the only country that makes bike frames is the USA. I have no reason not to believe them.

Speak for yourself. I only touch Welsh scandium.

remember that japanese frames are not ment to be ridden. designed only to handle the stress of hanging on a wall.