Repacking NEW hubs?? Is it Necessary??
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Repacking NEW hubs?? Is it Necessary??
Seems like a bunch of us on the forums are getting us some new wheels now that the spring is here, so maybe a good time to ask this question. What i wonder is this: I've read in a few threads in the past that it's a good idea to open up new hubs, clean the bearings and then regrease them with high(er) quality grease. Is this something that only really anal people do, or is it truly a good idea?
I've actually never fiddled with the inner workings of my hubs, so the idea both excites and scares me a bit b/c i don't want to mess anything up, but it's about time I step it up a notch and learn how to service my own hubs. What do you guys think about the grease thing?
(the hubs in question for myself here are some Dura Ace 7600, but i think the question probably applies to any hub straight from the factory.)
I've actually never fiddled with the inner workings of my hubs, so the idea both excites and scares me a bit b/c i don't want to mess anything up, but it's about time I step it up a notch and learn how to service my own hubs. What do you guys think about the grease thing?
(the hubs in question for myself here are some Dura Ace 7600, but i think the question probably applies to any hub straight from the factory.)
Last edited by EnLaCalle; 05-04-06 at 10:37 PM.
#3
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I'd imagine most hubs nowadays use cartridge bearings, making this a moot point. MOOT!
It can't hurt to repack them off the bat (unless you misadjust them when you put them back together) .
Shimano ships their road/MTB hubs pretty dry and I've always felt that a good repacking does wonders.
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Many people still prefer loose bearings to cartridge, and rightly so.
To that end: if you want your **** to last and last and last, I'd repack with Phil Grease before riding.
To that end: if you want your **** to last and last and last, I'd repack with Phil Grease before riding.
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…besides, it's always good to check the play of the hubs (what with the QR mechanisms squeezing the axles and changing the play - see Park Tools site) - if they're not set right, they'll wear - and there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth (…or perhaps I mean balls…)
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I've seen brand new hubs with such little grease that the manufacturers must be charging the assemblers by the gram.
By all means repack the little guys. I do it with new-outta-the-box Campy's. And while you're at it, get Grade 25 ball bearings, too. You're talking 40 bearings, so even at a nickle each (typical bike shop ripoff price), it's only 2 bucks.
Phil, Park are good bike greases. If you want to save some more money, get yourself a tub of lithium bearing grease from an auto supply store. The last pound container I bought (in 1998) which I still have, ran me a whole $5.
Do the bottom bracket and headset, too!
By all means repack the little guys. I do it with new-outta-the-box Campy's. And while you're at it, get Grade 25 ball bearings, too. You're talking 40 bearings, so even at a nickle each (typical bike shop ripoff price), it's only 2 bucks.
Phil, Park are good bike greases. If you want to save some more money, get yourself a tub of lithium bearing grease from an auto supply store. The last pound container I bought (in 1998) which I still have, ran me a whole $5.
Do the bottom bracket and headset, too!
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EnLa - the dura ace hubs ship with a very high-quality, but lighter grease, and they also don't put too much in there. This is fine and dandy if you're riding out on a velo, but for street grease I'd pull them apart, clean them out & rebuild using phils grease.
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The wheel i got from nyc bikes was missing a washer and loosened up on me.
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gimme a call if/when you're gonna do it!
this time, you can be the guinea pig.
gimme a call if/when you're gonna do it!
this time, you can be the guinea pig.
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Originally Posted by sivat
The wheel i got from nyc bikes was missing a washer and loosened up on me.
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White sync grease type, like Campy grease is more suitable to repack looseball bearing hubs. They are thicker and do not dissipate over time comparing to Phil grease.
Ask many pro mechanics (Freeewheel on Hayes) and they will tell you the same.
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Ask many pro mechanics (Freeewheel on Hayes) and they will tell you the same.
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i've recently tried out the Phil Wood grease - i find it much much thicker than the generic white grease i'd been using before. is that normal?
is that a concern when it comes to packing hubs? is thicker better or worse? (i see above that Bakabon is saying thicker is better).
is that a concern when it comes to packing hubs? is thicker better or worse? (i see above that Bakabon is saying thicker is better).
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EnLa & ChOmbO, I want to see this guinea pig stuff!
Will be in town this weekend (sat afternoon?), (Bensonhurst)
can bring wrenchs and have repacked many hubs before.
just add sparks!
Will be in town this weekend (sat afternoon?), (Bensonhurst)
can bring wrenchs and have repacked many hubs before.
just add sparks!
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i think you should use every opportunity possible to use phil grease.
it smells yummy.
it smells yummy.
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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
i think you should use every opportunity possible to use phil grease.
it smells yummy.
it smells yummy.





