Campy chainline help request.
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Campy chainline help request.
I am building up a second fixed gear. I acquired a nice Pinarello road frame with 70mm Italian thread BB. My bro gave me a Campy Daytona (now called Centaur) crank set, but he had an English thread BB. So I need to get a new BB and dial in the chainline while I am at it.
Supposedly the Campy Centaur 111mm spindle will give me a 143.5 (measured as road double) chainline. It looks like there is about 5-7mm(?) between the chainrings, which I calculate would put the inner at 40-41 mm, the outer at 46-47mm.
I plan on an IRO/formula 130mm rear hub, which will have a 142mm chainline.
Any suggestions on best way to get this set up?
Is adjusting spacing on chainrings or hub the answer?
Which is preferred and how much room can I count on?
Is there any hope of using the outer chainring (for aesthetic purposes, obviously)?
Just eyeballing it, it looks like the crank needs to be almost flush with the BB shell to get the outer chainring to the 42-44mm range.
Could be done with a Phil BB? would I need a shorter spindle?
Advice and help much appreciated!
Thanks~!
Supposedly the Campy Centaur 111mm spindle will give me a 143.5 (measured as road double) chainline. It looks like there is about 5-7mm(?) between the chainrings, which I calculate would put the inner at 40-41 mm, the outer at 46-47mm.
I plan on an IRO/formula 130mm rear hub, which will have a 142mm chainline.
Any suggestions on best way to get this set up?
Is adjusting spacing on chainrings or hub the answer?
Which is preferred and how much room can I count on?
Is there any hope of using the outer chainring (for aesthetic purposes, obviously)?
Just eyeballing it, it looks like the crank needs to be almost flush with the BB shell to get the outer chainring to the 42-44mm range.
Could be done with a Phil BB? would I need a shorter spindle?
Advice and help much appreciated!
Thanks~!
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You do not have a 143.5mm chainline. Most are from 42-52mm. Read Sheldon, check your measurements and terminology, and try again.
That said, I'd guess you meant to say you have a 43.5mm chainline. This is pretty good. A difference in chainline of 1.5 mm is pretty damn negligible in my book. If you must fine-tune it, see if you can get a 108mm spindle. This will move each crank in 1.5 mm (3mm total length change), thus giving you a perfect chainline. Alternatively, you could get a 1.5 mm spacer for your cog. As long as you still have plenty of thread engagement on both the cog and lockring, this could be the way to go.
That said, I'd guess you meant to say you have a 43.5mm chainline. This is pretty good. A difference in chainline of 1.5 mm is pretty damn negligible in my book. If you must fine-tune it, see if you can get a 108mm spindle. This will move each crank in 1.5 mm (3mm total length change), thus giving you a perfect chainline. Alternatively, you could get a 1.5 mm spacer for your cog. As long as you still have plenty of thread engagement on both the cog and lockring, this could be the way to go.
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Ahh, campy taper spindles. Such a pain in the ass, but so worth it in the end... I hope. You can try a Miche BB, which has a 107mm campy taper spindly, and is adjustable left-to-right, so your chainline should be near-perfect. For a high end option, try Phil wood. I'm sure their BB system will sort you out, for $150 or so.
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Originally Posted by moki
Ahh, campy taper spindles. Such a pain in the ass, but so worth it in the end... I hope. You can try a Miche BB, which has a 107mm campy taper spindly, and is adjustable left-to-right, so your chainline should be near-perfect. For a high end option, try Phil wood. I'm sure their BB system will sort you out, for $150 or so.
I have done a little more searching and digging through old posts and unless the Miche idea works out it does sound like Phil Wood may be the safest (albeit relatively expensive) route. Still it probably beats buying a bottom bracket AND a set of cranks.
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Miche BBs also come in 110mm and 113mm spindle length.
I have my own thread trying to figure out which one I need.
I have my own thread trying to figure out which one I need.
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EDIT: Okay.. I figured out that Campy and Miche are both ISO taper... this might work. Thanks.
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