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pyroonfia 05-16-06 10:08 PM

vigorelli or sugino??
 
its time to upgrade with a new crankset, and i was just wondering if its really worth it to have my bike be the hottest ride on the block if i have to buy a new bottom bracket for the jaw-dropping vigorelli, or if i just pay about 100 bucks less and put on a not so cool looking but still real sweet sugino 75 crankset

No_Minkah 05-16-06 10:12 PM

Does the FSA take an external-bearing BB? If so, there are benefits beyond the mad ill style points. The bearings are larger, and last longer, or so I've heard.

onetwentyeight 05-16-06 10:20 PM

personally i think the suginos look better. whats your frame?

pyroonfia 05-16-06 10:25 PM

black and green pista

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006...onCalvache.htm

i have no clue about the bearings in the square taper vs. ISIS bb

Sin-A-Matic 05-16-06 10:28 PM

I don't like the FSA cranks. I think the non-retail one are pretty hot, but I don't care for the solid look.

The black 75's are fantastic on the other hand. That year Pista doesn't have the ISIS bottom bracket? I've got an 03 that does.

freebird 05-16-06 11:21 PM

Man, the FSA's would look good on that frame. I like mine.
The black Sugi's are sweet, until the anodizing wears off right away and they look like crap. Every set I've seen so far has done it.

How's this-- If you have an ISIS bb, buy the FSA's. Square taper, the Sugino's.
Easy, non?

Sin-A-Matic 05-16-06 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by freebird
Man, the FSA's would look good on that frame. I like mine.
The black Sugi's are sweet, until the anodizing wears off right away and they look like crap. Every set I've seen so far has done it.

Can anyone else confirm this? I was thinking of buying a set, but that would influence my decision.

d_nast 05-16-06 11:57 PM

yea, the anodizing does wear off quickly the black 75s. my friend's (imoncrank) set had worn away a couple days upon mounting. my black sugino 75s after seeing his has been covered in black electrical tape. If you run clipless, it may be less of an issue but not sure though.

onetwentyeight 05-17-06 10:23 AM

i rubbed the decals and anodizing off the silver ones too, but yea. the black ones don't look so hot if your toe straps rub up against them. Clipless, not so much of a problem. Try sugino 75s with a zen ring. pretty snazzy looking combo, imho.

queerpunk 05-17-06 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by freebird
How's this-- If you have an ISIS bb, buy the FSA's. Square taper, the Sugino's.
Easy, non?

i wouldn't choose my cranks based on what BB i have. especially if a new bb costs less than the difference between the cranks.

to the OP, if i were in your shoes, i'd go with the sugino 75's, because i think the fsa's are kinda ugly. but you do what you want, spend what you want. either way, they'll probably suit you just fine.

sourasher 05-17-06 10:47 AM

I'd go Sugino 75. I have the black crankset with a Blackspire chainring and I really like it. No wear on the crank after a month and a half of riding with clips. I'm not into the FSA solid look either.

ImOnCrank 05-17-06 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by d_nast
yea, the anodizing does wear off quickly the black 75s. my friend's (imoncrank) set had worn away a couple days upon mounting.

2 days to be exact. However I do run double straps. I'll throw in for the suginos because they're fricking bombproof and stiff as hell. Mine withstood a 25mph curbstrike dead on and all it did was chip a little anodizing on the bottom. Guess they have that little NJS stamp for a reason. And besides that, worn away anodizing shows use = sweet!

gregtheripper 05-17-06 10:51 AM

looks aside, i would say sugino 75's. solid cranks, and if you already have a perfectly good square taper bb w/ a 108mm to 110mm spindle (ideal for 75 is 109 but its an odd size to find without buying the 75 bb) it saves you some money/time/effort.

mikorp 05-17-06 10:51 AM

the fas vig cranks are lame. the carbon disk rubs on the crank arm and streches out, so there is play in the chain ring. I know 2 people who sent them back to fsa for the same prob and they filled the gap with jb weld. fsa is known for putting products on the market with very little research. also i have never seen a set of suginos break ever.

brunning 05-17-06 01:37 PM

the fsa cranks are kinda cool in an agro way, but the 75s are really classic and timeless. they'll last forever, too.

kathrot 05-17-06 02:27 PM

i agree on the 75s. they're solid. i don't really care for the FSA.

Pipebomb 05-17-06 02:41 PM

The vig's are dope if your into the stealth/nihgtrider look. Just got mine delivered on monday. The 75's are the kickass too. So whatever you like more I suppose is what you should get.

jandops 05-17-06 05:01 PM

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006...haelBasu-2.jpg
the black rubs off on the fsa ones too

Re-Cycle 05-17-06 05:04 PM

Try what I ride, FSA ring on Sugino crank.

max-a-mill 05-18-06 06:46 AM

i say: don't spend any more money on stupid isis bottom brackets.

either go back to square taper or foward to external bearing... it isn't worth putting nice cranks on a *****ty bottom bracket design.

Learn_not2burn 05-18-06 07:02 AM

I had the FSAs, absolutely no problems. All the problems with the spider loosening from the actual cranks were on the original Vigorellis, FSA fixed the problem. If you are using them on the track, then go with the Viggies, because they would look pretty smokin' and be stiff and smooth. If you are mostly on the street then definetely go with the 75's, they're metal and square taper meaning they will survive a crash that your body won't. I never really had that confidence riding my Vigorellis on the street, which I felt was important. Had I been able to do it over, I would prefer the 75s over my DA's even, just because you don't have to use the octalink garbage.


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