more miche questions
 

so do miche hubs REQUIRE the miche cog carrier system? or can you throw on a surly cog and lockring like normal?

It does not require it.
You can thread on any cog/lockring like normal if you choose.

not any cog...they have to be either ISO or non-ISO but i can never remember which

Yeah, sorry.
Probably ISO, like their crank's taper.

you can't use just any lockring, they come with a lockring a though

would a surly be legit?

lockring threading standards:

33.5 mm × 24 TPI Campagnolo, Gipiemme, Phil Wood, Miche
1.29" × 24 TPI Shimano, Suntour, Suzue, Surly, Zipp, Corima
33.0 mm × 1 Mavic

http://www.businesscycles.com/tr-refspec.htm#hub

I don't think so.
I believe you need phil or campy.
But I might be wrong.

thanks for link seasponge

EAI cogs work, too.

my only qualms w/ my miche hub are the track nuts. too small and its 14mm as opposed to standard 15mm.
yea, and EAI, Phil or Campy cogs work.

That bugged me too. so I bought a set of 15mm track nuts for like $3. All better!

oh damn, for real?
I tried to thread on some 15mm track nut for 30 seconds and it didn't thread on so I just figured the axle to be miche propriatary. haha
I think I'll try again.

I run a surly cog on mine no problem the only difrance is in the lockring thread but like people said it comes with one.

there are a couple of different sizes. I forget which size it is, but whatever size it is you can get in 15mm. I just bought what they had at the bike shop, and luckily it was the right thing.

re: 14mm wrench, what's the big deal?

I've got 15mm on the front.

My Miche hubs came with 15mm track nuts front and rear... that's odd.

Miche recently changed from 14mm to 15mm track nuts.

i just got some miche hubs from business cycles and i think all of the nuts are 15mm but they are still chincey and knurled