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Old 05-31-06 | 03:32 PM
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so do miche hubs REQUIRE the miche cog carrier system? or can you throw on a surly cog and lockring like normal?
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Old 05-31-06 | 03:36 PM
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It does not require it.
You can thread on any cog/lockring like normal if you choose.
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Old 05-31-06 | 03:47 PM
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not any cog...they have to be either ISO or non-ISO but i can never remember which
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Old 05-31-06 | 03:49 PM
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Yeah, sorry.
Probably ISO, like their crank's taper.
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Old 05-31-06 | 03:54 PM
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you can't use just any lockring, they come with a lockring a though
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Old 05-31-06 | 03:56 PM
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would a surly be legit?
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Old 05-31-06 | 04:00 PM
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lockring threading standards:

33.5 mm × 24 TPI Campagnolo, Gipiemme, Phil Wood, Miche
1.29" × 24 TPI Shimano, Suntour, Suzue, Surly, Zipp, Corima
33.0 mm × 1 Mavic

https://www.businesscycles.com/tr-refspec.htm#hub
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Old 05-31-06 | 04:00 PM
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I don't think so.
I believe you need phil or campy.
But I might be wrong.
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Old 05-31-06 | 04:04 PM
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Old 05-31-06 | 05:15 PM
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EAI cogs work, too.
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Old 05-31-06 | 05:24 PM
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my only qualms w/ my miche hub are the track nuts. too small and its 14mm as opposed to standard 15mm.
yea, and EAI, Phil or Campy cogs work.
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Old 05-31-06 | 08:22 PM
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my only qualms w/ my miche hub are the track nuts. too small and its 14mm as opposed to standard 15mm.
yea, and EAI, Phil or Campy cogs work.
That bugged me too. so I bought a set of 15mm track nuts for like $3. All better!
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Old 05-31-06 | 08:57 PM
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oh damn, for real?
I tried to thread on some 15mm track nut for 30 seconds and it didn't thread on so I just figured the axle to be miche propriatary. haha
I think I'll try again.
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Old 05-31-06 | 09:02 PM
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I run a surly cog on mine no problem the only difrance is in the lockring thread but like people said it comes with one.
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Old 05-31-06 | 09:03 PM
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oh damn, for real?
I tried to thread on some 15mm track nut for 30 seconds and it didn't thread on so I just figured the axle to be miche propriatary. haha
I think I'll try again.
there are a couple of different sizes. I forget which size it is, but whatever size it is you can get in 15mm. I just bought what they had at the bike shop, and luckily it was the right thing.
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Old 05-31-06 | 09:37 PM
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re: 14mm wrench, what's the big deal?
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Old 05-31-06 | 09:59 PM
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re: 14mm wrench, what's the big deal?
I've got 15mm on the front.
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Old 05-31-06 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sr20det
my only qualms w/ my miche hub are the track nuts. too small and its 14mm as opposed to standard 15mm.
My Miche hubs came with 15mm track nuts front and rear... that's odd.
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Old 06-01-06 | 05:30 AM
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Miche recently changed from 14mm to 15mm track nuts.
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Old 06-01-06 | 02:31 PM
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i just got some miche hubs from business cycles and i think all of the nuts are 15mm but they are still chincey and knurled
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