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Originally Posted by colintdesign
(Post 5657470)
You make a lot of assumptions and you don't know me. What exactly is your problem with my critique? I grew up skating and hate to see all those old graphics I loved being poorly ripped off. And doesn't all this 'streetwear' stuff cost a fortune anyway? Like $30 t-shirts, $50 hoodies. Oh the irony.
Your argument for re-appropriated design was a little tired though. Especially since MOST the **** we see now-a-days is re-appropriated. I grew up surfing and skating and personally, I like the nostalgic sensibility behind these shirts. $30 tshirts and $120 hoodies too dude... And yes, Streetwear has gotten dumb. Mostly because any kid now with some money thinks they can design ****. I am only loyal to a few brands and Gentei is one of them. Mishka, Flying Coffin, Actual Pain and Vans are about all I'll wear anymore. |
Originally Posted by trace215
(Post 5657428)
Jesus. That "fixed-gear army" hoodie is the absolute wackest thing I've ever seen - What self-respecting fixed rider would ride around with "skid and destroy" written in an XTREME FONT on the back of an ugly pink hoodie? (Or really, who would at all?). Ridiculousness aside, it's also just bad fashion.
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Heh, yeah, I didn't realize how old this thread was until you mentioned it. I still contend the hoodie is wack, but hey, whatever flies your aeroplane.
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remember this?
http://www.tonyhallamskateboarding.c...nleeburger.jpg http://www.tonyhallamskateboarding.c...kingletter.jpg Skateboarding companies, especially world industries, ripped off every logo ever made. |
****, where'd you find that? I was looking for that exact deck to post!
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Originally Posted by colintdesign
(Post 5657195)
My critique is their re-appropriating of other companys graphics, slapping their logo on it and selling for profit. I understand the attempt at low-brow homage but it is brand theft. I actually think the bike posted at the beginning of the thread looks pretty cool.
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i did an image search for jason lee burger king. i loved that deck. but i loved the gonz mac and cheese one more:
http://www.ukoldschool.dsl.pipex.com...gonz_mac_b.jpg This page has a ton of old decks. www.ukoldschool.dsl.pipex.com/ collection.htm |
Originally Posted by jayrooney
(Post 5657705)
remember this?
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Originally Posted by dblock
(Post 5659062)
you still never answered if you download music. your whole argument seems pretty weak if you do
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appropriation: where do you draw the line?
http://br.geocities.com/dohumor/imagem/minor_foto16.gif [picture of minor threat ripoff poster by nike skate--not showing up for some reason] |
Originally Posted by schnee
(Post 5659232)
Only if you have no clue what branding really means. They're not related at all.
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there is no originality in this pomo world duuuuuuuuude
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That Minor Threat thing still makes me wince.
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yeah, Nike pretty much ****ed that all up...
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Re: the OP,
We called them "Shop Hentai" where I used to work. For ******bags who don't ride, by ******bags who don't ride. |
Originally Posted by dblock
(Post 5660070)
i know what branding means. maybe they are not related but the idea is similar. an image created by someone is ripped off without permission. music is created by someone is ripped off without permission.
I think they're both wrong in one way or another, but very different. If you download commercial music and don't pay, and would have paid otherwise, that's using a service without giving the creators what they asked for. That's bad, but in a bottom-feeder 'buck stops here' way. If you take someone else's logo, tweak it and resell it, you're doing two things... making money off of their idea, and polluting their brand. It's gone from scavenging to being outright parasitic in a way that can actively roll back and hurt the creators. It's gone from a passive action to an active one. See what I mean? |
Originally Posted by ZachS
(Post 2679034)
page 3 of this thread is boring, and it had no pictures.
http://www.solographic.com/web/bikedude.jpg (that felt good) |
Originally Posted by schnee
(Post 5661620)
Sorry about my tone last post. I should be less rude.
I think they're both wrong in one way or another, but very different. If you download commercial music and don't pay, and would have paid otherwise, that's using a service without giving the creators what they asked for. That's bad, but in a bottom-feeder 'buck stops here' way. If you take someone else's logo, tweak it and resell it, you're doing two things... making money off of their idea, and polluting their brand. It's gone from scavenging to being outright parasitic in a way that can actively roll back and hurt the creators. It's gone from a passive action to an active one. See what I mean? |
Originally Posted by carleton
(Post 2675818)
I know the story on the first bike. It was built from parts laying around the shop. It wasn't a show piece.
It's funny. This shop is bringing hard to find parts from JP and making it available in a store where you can just walk in and get it plus they are making clothes and gear FOR YOU (whether you like it or not) and you are hating on them. If you don't like it, why don't you call/email them suggestions on how to make it better instead of spitting on it. You know, it could be worse. No one would care to import or design fixed/track products then you'd b1tch about that: "Why doesn't someone make stuff for us?" |
dude you cant argue with the past
someone tell juvikyle to post here again just ask juvi is probably my all time favorite thread |
Originally Posted by johnprolly
(Post 5657579)
Yeah dude. I don't know you. My bad for firing that **** off after too many beers with dinner...
Your argument for re-appropriated design was a little tired though. Especially since MOST the **** we see now-a-days is re-appropriated. I grew up surfing and skating and personally, I like the nostalgic sensibility behind these shirts. $30 tshirts and $120 hoodies too dude... And yes, Streetwear has gotten dumb. Mostly because any kid now with some money thinks they can design ****. I am only loyal to a few brands and Gentei is one of them. Mishka, Flying Coffin, Actual Pain and Vans are about all I'll wear anymore. ^ im still geeked on how huge (cult following-wise) Flying Coffin has become. not many people know this, but the dude behind it is from Hawaii. good friend of mine, even. rad for FC. |
Originally Posted by doofo
(Post 5664308)
dude you cant argue with the past
someone tell juvikyle to post here again just ask juvi is probably my all time favorite thread trackasourus rex duh ?sloppy still posts |
Originally Posted by DasProfezzional
(Post 5661473)
Re: the OP,
We called them "Shop Hentai" where I used to work. For ******bags who don't ride, by ******bags who don't ride. |
johnprolly, my respect for you waxes and wanes with every thread. Sometimes your polite and succinct, and other times, you're a rude, raving idiot blindly defending your rampant consumerism.
Either be a dutret, or be a doofo, but you can't be both. |
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