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str8flexed

06-29-06 03:34 PM

Pake vs. Mark V...

Basic differences I see:

Pake is threadless
Pake is round tubing

But same tubing. Okay, people like Tony, but and Pake is a racist name. What else...? Geometry similar?

No_Minkah

06-29-06 03:37 PM

Mark V is also threadless.

Aeroplane

06-29-06 04:01 PM

Code:

Pake Geo:                   

                TT C-C (level) HT Angle        Headtube         Standover     Wheelbase

        ST C-T           TT C-C (act)  ST Angle          Chainstay      Bottom Bracket Drop 

          49cm         520         518         73.3         75.3         90mm         388         29.4"         58         944

          51cm         525         525         73.5         75.3         90mm         388         30.4"         58         950

          53cm         540         535         74          75.3         110mm         388         31.0"         58         955

          55cm         557         550         74.3         75.3         130mm         388         31.8"         58         968

          57cm         568         560         74.3         75.3         150mm         388         32.5"         58         979

          59cm         582         575         75          75          170mm          388          33.3"          58          988

Aeroplane

06-29-06 04:02 PM

Code:

Mark V geo

S/T C-T        



       S/T c-c             H/T Angle                        Wheel Base     C/S Length

              T/T Length     S/T Angle         H/T Length         B/B Drop         Stand Over

50cm         46 cm         52 cm         72.0°         75.0°         10 cm         95 cm   5 cm         39.1 cm 29.5"

53cm         49 cm         54 cm         72.0°         73.0°         10 cm         95.7 cm 5 cm         39.1 cm 30"

56cm         52 cm         55.5          73.0°         73.0°         12.5 c         96 cm   5 cm         39.1 cm 31"

59cm         55 cm         57 cm         74.0°         73.0°         15 cm         96.6 cm 5 cm         39.1 cm 32"

62cm         58 cm         59 cm         75.0°         73.0°         17.8 c         97.5 cm 5 cm         39.1 cm 33.5"

No_Minkah

06-29-06 05:48 PM

vs

http://www.irocycle.com/geometry.html

Aeroplane

06-30-06 06:52 AM

Summary: The Pake has steeper angles, a shorter wheelbase, shorter chainstays, longer HT, and a slightly lower BB. Probably a little trackier.

genericbikedude

06-30-06 07:05 AM

pake is like soma but with cheap tubing. iro comes with good components if you buy the whole bike.

queerpunk

06-30-06 07:26 AM

the pake is neither threaded nor threadless. it comes optionally with an unthreaded fork and a 1" steer tube. you could get a headset and threaded fork for it, if'n you want.

pixel

06-30-06 11:48 AM

how are 1-1/8" threadless stems with a shim to fit on the 1" (as 1" threadless stems are harder to find,no?)?
seems like it would be more likely to slip, but I've never ridden it so I have no clue.

hyperRevue

06-30-06 12:08 PM

Wait, nevermind.

shishi

06-30-06 12:11 PM

Haven't been on either, but NYC seems to be sportin tons of IROS.

pixel

06-30-06 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperRevue

You got it backwards.
You can't shim something to make it fit something smaller.
You shim 1 inch stems to fit 1 1/8 steertubes.

I'm either really confused (very possible) or you're messing with me... I always figured the shim went on the inside of the stem, decreasing the inside diameter down to 1" from 1-1/8"...

dirtyphotons

06-30-06 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperRevue

You got it backwards.
You can't shim something to make it fit something smaller.
You shim 1 inch stems to fit 1 1/8 steertubes.

haha, threadless my friend. threadless.

visitordesign

06-30-06 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixel

how are 1-1/8" threadless stems with a shim to fit on the 1" (as 1" threadless stems are harder to find,no?)?
seems like it would be more likely to slip, but I've never ridden it so I have no clue.

my 1" steertube pista has a 1-1/8" shimmed thomson elite road stem on it. no complaints.

my jackson has a 1-1/8" steertube and non-shimmed thomson elite road stem. no complaints there either.

hyperRevue

06-30-06 12:15 PM

I was all messed up.
Carry on.

pixel

06-30-06 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visitordesign

my 1" steertube pista has a 1-1/8" shimmed thomson elite road stem on it. no complaints.

thanks, always wondered about that.

dirtyphotons

06-30-06 12:16 PM

and for god's sake, don't shim a threaded stem.

shishi

06-30-06 12:17 PM

go for a ride to clear your head :D

hyperRevue

06-30-06 12:18 PM

Seriously.

How about an all day cook-out and playing in the park extravanganza?

shishi

06-30-06 12:20 PM

I'll start riding now, should hit MKE about noonish on Tuesday.

hyperRevue

06-30-06 12:24 PM

We're still be going strong.
Bring my best friend Nick, too.
He lives on Nassau.

geog_dash

07-01-06 03:29 PM

Pake works for me. Haven't ridden a Mark V, so I can't say. Pake is only a frame, so final result depends on what you put on it.

http://fixedgeargallery.com has a Pake review "coming soon." You might want to hold out for that.

I don't see any decisive differences in geometry, construction, or price. You won't go wrong with either. See what's available in your size.

matt_savvy

07-01-06 07:51 PM

racist name? is pake a slur in hawiian or something?

fix	07-01-06 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shishi

Haven't been on either, but NYC seems to be sportin tons of IROS.

So is Boston...i see at least five a day downtown

GirlAnachronism

07-02-06 08:52 AM

the brits use it in reference to pakistani's....

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