Pake vs. Mark V...
06-29-06 | 03:34 PM
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Pake vs. Mark V...
Basic differences I see:
Pake is threadless
Pake is round tubing
But same tubing. Okay, people like Tony, but and Pake is a racist name. What else...? Geometry similar?
Pake is threadless
Pake is round tubing
But same tubing. Okay, people like Tony, but and Pake is a racist name. What else...? Geometry similar?
06-29-06 | 04:01 PM
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Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Code:
Pake Geo:
TT C-C (level) HT Angle Headtube Standover Wheelbase
ST C-T TT C-C (act) ST Angle Chainstay Bottom Bracket Drop
49cm 520 518 73.3 75.3 90mm 388 29.4" 58 944
51cm 525 525 73.5 75.3 90mm 388 30.4" 58 950
53cm 540 535 74 75.3 110mm 388 31.0" 58 955
55cm 557 550 74.3 75.3 130mm 388 31.8" 58 968
57cm 568 560 74.3 75.3 150mm 388 32.5" 58 979
59cm 582 575 75 75 170mm 388 33.3" 58 988
06-29-06 | 04:02 PM
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jack of one or two trades
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From: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Code:
Mark V geo
S/T C-T
S/T c-c H/T Angle Wheel Base C/S Length
T/T Length S/T Angle H/T Length B/B Drop Stand Over
50cm 46 cm 52 cm 72.0° 75.0° 10 cm 95 cm 5 cm 39.1 cm 29.5"
53cm 49 cm 54 cm 72.0° 73.0° 10 cm 95.7 cm 5 cm 39.1 cm 30"
56cm 52 cm 55.5 73.0° 73.0° 12.5 c 96 cm 5 cm 39.1 cm 31"
59cm 55 cm 57 cm 74.0° 73.0° 15 cm 96.6 cm 5 cm 39.1 cm 32"
62cm 58 cm 59 cm 75.0° 73.0° 17.8 c 97.5 cm 5 cm 39.1 cm 33.5"
Last edited by Aeroplane; 06-30-06 at 06:50 AM.
06-29-06 | 05:48 PM
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06-30-06 | 06:52 AM
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jack of one or two trades
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From: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Summary: The Pake has steeper angles, a shorter wheelbase, shorter chainstays, longer HT, and a slightly lower BB. Probably a little trackier.
06-30-06 | 11:48 AM
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how are 1-1/8" threadless stems with a shim to fit on the 1" (as 1" threadless stems are harder to find,no?)?
seems like it would be more likely to slip, but I've never ridden it so I have no clue.
seems like it would be more likely to slip, but I've never ridden it so I have no clue.
06-30-06 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperRevue
You got it backwards.
You can't shim something to make it fit something smaller.
You shim 1 inch stems to fit 1 1/8 steertubes.
You can't shim something to make it fit something smaller.
You shim 1 inch stems to fit 1 1/8 steertubes.
06-30-06 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pixel
how are 1-1/8" threadless stems with a shim to fit on the 1" (as 1" threadless stems are harder to find,no?)?
seems like it would be more likely to slip, but I've never ridden it so I have no clue.
seems like it would be more likely to slip, but I've never ridden it so I have no clue.
my jackson has a 1-1/8" steertube and non-shimmed thomson elite road stem. no complaints there either.
06-30-06 | 12:18 PM
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Seriously.
How about an all day cook-out and playing in the park extravanganza?
How about an all day cook-out and playing in the park extravanganza?
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06-30-06 | 12:24 PM
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Bikes: 2004 Bianchi Pista, Cannondale Track, Soma Pake, Schwinn Breeze
We're still be going strong.
Bring my best friend Nick, too.
He lives on Nassau.
Bring my best friend Nick, too.
He lives on Nassau.
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07-01-06 | 03:29 PM
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Bikes: Pake fixie. Klein Reve (for sale, https://www.theveer.net/gordons_klein)
Pake works for me. Haven't ridden a Mark V, so I can't say. Pake is only a frame, so final result depends on what you put on it.
https://fixedgeargallery.com has a Pake review "coming soon." You might want to hold out for that.
I don't see any decisive differences in geometry, construction, or price. You won't go wrong with either. See what's available in your size.
https://fixedgeargallery.com has a Pake review "coming soon." You might want to hold out for that.
I don't see any decisive differences in geometry, construction, or price. You won't go wrong with either. See what's available in your size.
07-01-06 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shishi
Haven't been on either, but NYC seems to be sportin tons of IROS.
