pac design bags
#26
jack of one or two trades
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
I would love if they (or anybody) did a retrofitting service: I love the X-strap type setup, but I already have a baileyworks, so I don't want to drop three hundo on another bag just because it will feel better on longer rides. Convenience of a messenger bag, comfort of a backpack, why can't you be mine? For a reasonable price?
#27
Originally Posted by Aeroplane
I would love if they (or anybody) did a retrofitting service: I love the X-strap type setup, but I already have a baileyworks, so I don't want to drop three hundo on another bag just because it will feel better on longer rides. Convenience of a messenger bag, comfort of a backpack, why can't you be mine? For a reasonable price?
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#28
I got my Ultimate about 5 years ago. I use the X-Strap all the time because my back has been going bad. I've never run out of space - once delivered some dude's monster of a Mac G4 desktop computer down to CompUSA for repairs. Now I commute to work with it -shoes, pants, shirts, lunch, etc. Every once in a while I think about getting a smaller bag, but with all the compression options, I don't really see the point. I've been super happy with it.
#30
I've had my ultimate for ~a month now. It's replacing a chrome metropolis, which i rode with for ~5 years (still in pretty good shape- anyone interested?).
I agree with most of what folks have been saying here- the pac is huge, with almost 2X the working capacity of the chrome. Fewer little pockets to organize stuff, no really good place to put pens. All the straps can be pretty confusing at first, although the velcro patches help keep things organized.
The pac fits me much better- i'm scrawny, with narrow shoulders, and the chrome had a tendency to creep off my shoulder if it was empty or really full.
The x-strap rocks- 95% of the functionality of a backpack, once you figure out how to adjust the straps.
One i didn't think i would like, but actually find really useful for large loads is the waist strap. Like the waist strap on hiking packs, it shifts a good portion of heavy loads off your back onto your hips.
I agree with most of what folks have been saying here- the pac is huge, with almost 2X the working capacity of the chrome. Fewer little pockets to organize stuff, no really good place to put pens. All the straps can be pretty confusing at first, although the velcro patches help keep things organized.
The pac fits me much better- i'm scrawny, with narrow shoulders, and the chrome had a tendency to creep off my shoulder if it was empty or really full.
The x-strap rocks- 95% of the functionality of a backpack, once you figure out how to adjust the straps.
One i didn't think i would like, but actually find really useful for large loads is the waist strap. Like the waist strap on hiking packs, it shifts a good portion of heavy loads off your back onto your hips.
#31
tarck bike.com exile
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: lancaster, pennsylvania
Bikes: bfssfg iro--black.
if i could find someone to do reliable retro-work on bags i would be so happy.
i want a u-lock holster and a few inner pockets on my timbuk2... maybe i'll just wait until i go to my grandmother's house and use her sewing machine.
i want a u-lock holster and a few inner pockets on my timbuk2... maybe i'll just wait until i go to my grandmother's house and use her sewing machine.
#32
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Joined: Mar 2006
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From: pdx
Bikes: highly modified specialized crossroads and GT hybrid (really a [formerly] 12-speed bmx cruiser, made before 'hybrid' took on its current meaning), as yet unmodified redline 925, couple of other projects
If you have time, just get some heavy-duty thread and a needle. Hand sewing is relaxing as ****.
#35
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Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Long Beach, CA
Bikes: Bianchi Advantage Fixed Conversion; Specialized Stumpjumper FS Hardtail
Their bags look awesome, and I love the pump carrier idea. I also like the number and quality of pictures they put up. Baileyworks needs to take a lesson. By the time I added all of the cool options, even the regular ultimate looks like it would be close to $400. ouch.
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#36
Happy Cycling

Joined: Dec 2003
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From: SF
Bikes: bareknuckle, bomber pro, 3Rensho SR, nagasawa special
i've had my ultimate for a few years now, and the prices seem to be going up on these bags. if you're not a messenger i would just go for the large street scene. same size as the deluxe/ultimate without all the unnecessary bells and whistles for tooling aroun town.
#37
Originally Posted by fatbat
don't sew through the tarp! your bag will leak like crazy. get a curved needle and sew onto just the the canvas layer of the bag.
Either way, if you can avoid it, don't sew through the liner.






