?s for folks who deal with toe overlap while riding in the streets
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?s for folks who deal with toe overlap while riding in the streets
Hey there fellow riders,
I need to know how you deal with toe overlaps while riding in the streets. I was considering getting a new track bike but they all seem to have an overlap for folks with big toe clips. When turning is it a big concern or problem? Also are there any tricks while riding to avoid hitting the front wheel when turning? Since i ride like a messenger but am not one i dont want it to affect the riding experience. Thanks for all who contribute to answering.
I need to know how you deal with toe overlaps while riding in the streets. I was considering getting a new track bike but they all seem to have an overlap for folks with big toe clips. When turning is it a big concern or problem? Also are there any tricks while riding to avoid hitting the front wheel when turning? Since i ride like a messenger but am not one i dont want it to affect the riding experience. Thanks for all who contribute to answering.
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ummm, don't turn the wheel when your foot is forward? you'll learn. don't turn too fast and skip to get your feet in the right position if you have to. it's no too hard. and how exactly does a messenger ride?
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low speed oly as 128 said. it can be avoided by not turning the wheel to the side with your foot forward, and if you absolutely have to do that, point your toe down a little.
see also: get a bike without toe overlap if you are too worried about it.
see also: get a bike without toe overlap if you are too worried about it.
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Originally Posted by xthugmurderx
and how exactly does a messenger ride?
messengers do ride hard as hell though. i mean, its their job.
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Originally Posted by calculus


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Originally Posted by genericbikedude
like a ******bag/superhero
-jason
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its only an issue when you are turning really tight really slow. even then you can either point your toes if it isnt too bad or take your feet out of the pedals and ride the bottoms. you will get used to it or you will get a different bike.
classic
Originally Posted by genericbikedude
like a ******bag/superhero
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little guys can get away with plenty though, remember in quicksilver when that opening delivery van door almost took jack casey out, i wouldn't have been able to make it out of that on two wheels
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Well i dont think im a little guy? im 5'11 and ride a 57-59cm bike. Since i have the extra large toe clips i thought it may be a problem. But i gyes as yall said i should get used to it pretty soon. thanks alot.
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I wouldn't worry too much. I turn a lot by leaning in, and not so much rotating handlebars.. after a while you'll know when you've got the perfect turn and you've just barely avoided pedal strike and executed it flawlessly. It's a beautiful feeling. /cries happily.
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Overlap sux 'specially if yo a mad stunta like me...
Like an undesirable social disease you learn to live with
it but you really dont want to
Like an undesirable social disease you learn to live with
it but you really dont want to
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find your cadence and if you have to fish tail a littele throught the turn its easy I am also one of those guys that beleive you should only turn your front wheel if you ar track standing or turning real slow
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Originally Posted by Retem
I am also one of those guys that beleive you should only turn your front wheel if you ar track standing or turning real slow
you feel that way 'cause you're right
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Most any road type bike is going to have some overlap. The road bike and cross bike I race have hella overlap... thats why you shift your weight and put your cranks @ 6:00 when you corner. Overlap is one of the drawbacks to riding fixed (especially a true track bike) on the street. Speed in corners requires body english. Thats hard to do if you can't stop pedaling.
Thats why when you see some cat shredding corners on a fixie you should show love. $hit aint easy.
Thats why when you see some cat shredding corners on a fixie you should show love. $hit aint easy.
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Originally Posted by ryand
like they stole it!
messengers do ride hard as hell though. i mean, its their job.
messengers do ride hard as hell though. i mean, its their job.
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I never stole anything before......
If I stole a bicycle, would it make me a better rider ?
What does 'ride it like you stole it' mean ?
Sounds like something you might see next to a rebel flag and
number '3' decal on the back of a inbreeds bigfeet truck.
If I stole a bicycle, would it make me a better rider ?
What does 'ride it like you stole it' mean ?
Sounds like something you might see next to a rebel flag and
number '3' decal on the back of a inbreeds bigfeet truck.
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For riding in most places, toe-clip overlap isn't a problem at all. But in traffic, it's very annoying. When you shift lanes (amongst tightly packed cars), for example, overlap is a problem. You will have to slow down considerably to pass in front of a car in bumper-to-bumper traffic, because you can't make tight turns except at slower speeds. You can make *very* tight turns by passing your pedal inside the front wheel during the turn, but there's usually not enough room for this in traffic anyway. This leaves you with either wide slow turns, or very sharp turns, with not much in between. (This obviously depends on how much overlap you have). I'd recommend getting a frame with as little overlap as possible, but that's just me.





