A discussion of budget fixed-specific frames/complete bikes
#126
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Is anyone here in London? Do you know of anywhere to get most of the above bikes? I think I have to go for either the Bianchi Pista or the Langster (seems you're all recommending Pista, as it's steel), but I'd like a greater range - the IRO in particular looks great.
#127
crotchety young dude
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Bikes: IRO Angus; Casati Gold Line; Redline 925; '72 Schwinn Olympic Paramount
Talk to Tony at IRO about shipping to London. That'd be your best bet.
#128
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#129
jack of one or two trades
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Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Originally Posted by kilburnfixie
#130
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Originally Posted by Aeroplane
It was discussed in the Interbike thread, here are some thoughts:
1. Supposedly, SE Racing has been purchased by the same folks that own Mercier, Windsor, Motobecane, Dawes, et al. So, definitely a cheap bike.
1. Supposedly, SE Racing has been purchased by the same folks that own Mercier, Windsor, Motobecane, Dawes, et al. So, definitely a cheap bike.
On Fujis factory website their BMX bikes are SE's.
BikeDirect does Fuji rebranding for a lot of thier roadbikes.
6 degrees of.....................inbreeding ???
#131
jack of one or two trades
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Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Originally Posted by -=£em in Pa=-
On Fujis factory website their BMX bikes are SE's.
Originally Posted by Todd Lyons
Then the company laid dormant for years. No bikes were produced or sold. A few years later in 2002, ASI (which also owns Fuji Bikes USA) bought the brand and resurrected the company.
#132
Limey
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From: New Forest, UK
Bikes: Dawes (SS commuter), Ti-Red (SS MTB), Cannondale R800 (Stealth) Diavolo (Track/roller racer), Corima Fox (TT only)
Originally Posted by kilburnfixie
Is anyone here in London? Do you know of anywhere to get most of the above bikes? I think I have to go for either the Bianchi Pista or the Langster (seems you're all recommending Pista, as it's steel), but I'd like a greater range - the IRO in particular looks great.
They have plenty of fixed winter bikes / track irons and bits. Its a proper alladins cave for that sort of stuff.Dan
#133
Originally Posted by slim_77
I'll do that...
Man, I had a friend that didn't check and he ate it hard after a catastrophic failure...real hard. What about tapping the frame with a hammer to listen for odd reverberations? Is that just pi$$ing into the wind?
Man, I had a friend that didn't check and he ate it hard after a catastrophic failure...real hard. What about tapping the frame with a hammer to listen for odd reverberations? Is that just pi$$ing into the wind?
#135
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce
just got off the phone with bianchiusa and basically it sounded like the factory mistakenly boxed up some san jose's with pista wheels. he said the bike should come as spec'd with the freehub but right now it's a crap shoot because they don't know how many boxed in the warehouse have the fixed wheel. he did say if it came fixed they would replace with a freewheel if i wanted but not the other way around.
hope i get lucky.
hope i get lucky.
Looks nice, rides well. 42x17 is way low for me, I feel like I'm going so slow! I need to work on my spin. Guess this will do.
#136
Originally Posted by ducati
Looks nice, rides well. 42x17 is way low for me, I feel like I'm going so slow! I need to work on my spin. Guess this will do. 


it's great for rough and steep offroad stuff, but i was spinning my ass off in traffic. got passed by a little girl on a magna. it was awesome.
just to keep this on topic, it was my relatively new iro rob roy, which i love.
#137
Originally Posted by ducati
I picked up my San Jose last night. I got lucky--fixed installed (17t) flipflop rear hub, Pista wheelset.
Looks nice, rides well. 42x17 is way low for me, I feel like I'm going so slow! I need to work on my spin. Guess this will do.
Looks nice, rides well. 42x17 is way low for me, I feel like I'm going so slow! I need to work on my spin. Guess this will do.

#138
or tarckeemoon, depending
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From: the pesto of cities
Bikes: Davidson Impulse, Merckx Titanium AX, Bruce Gordon Rock & Road, Cross Check custom build, On-One Il Pomino, Shawver Cycles cross, Zion 737, Mercian Vincitore, Brompton S1L, Charge Juicer
Originally Posted by ducati
I picked up my San Jose last night. I got lucky--fixed installed (17t) flipflop rear hub, Pista wheelset.
Looks nice, rides well. 42x17 is way low for me, I feel like I'm going so slow! I need to work on my spin. Guess this will do.
Looks nice, rides well. 42x17 is way low for me, I feel like I'm going so slow! I need to work on my spin. Guess this will do.

(Thanks, Sheldon Brown!)
42x17 with 170 cranks and 700x32 tires = 66.7 gear inches
42x17 with 170 cranks and 700x38 tires = 67.5 gear inches
You also get a higher bottom bracket and a cushier ride in the deal. My singlespeed Cross Check is running 42x17 and 40mm tires. So fun.
#139
ok,
a couple from the u.k.
on-one pompino https://www.m-gineering.nl/pompinoside1.jpg
really nice comfy ride, with bosses for everything. cheap too.
and, condor pista's https://www.condorcycles.com/showBike.php?id=46
really reputable shop - they've been making bikes for years and years.
a couple from the u.k.
on-one pompino https://www.m-gineering.nl/pompinoside1.jpg
really nice comfy ride, with bosses for everything. cheap too.
and, condor pista's https://www.condorcycles.com/showBike.php?id=46
really reputable shop - they've been making bikes for years and years.
#141
Originally Posted by -=£em in Pa=-
On Fujis factory website their BMX bikes are SE's.
BikeDirect does Fuji rebranding for a lot of thier roadbikes.
6 degrees of.....................inbreeding ???
BikeDirect does Fuji rebranding for a lot of thier roadbikes.
6 degrees of.....................inbreeding ???
EDIT: and i'm not talking about BMX
EDIT EDIT: And I believe they're called the ale, the stout, and the lager.. no *****
#142
crotchety young dude
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From: SF, CA
Bikes: IRO Angus; Casati Gold Line; Redline 925; '72 Schwinn Olympic Paramount
Originally Posted by carssuck666
what colors do the IRO angus come in?
#143
Originally Posted by Aeroplane
The point was that Mercier (not KHS), Windsor, and Dawes are all owned by the same company. They may contract out work to different manufacturers, but they all sell direct through bikesdirect.com, and a chain of stores that are also owned by the same company.
It does have an american bottom bracket shell, that's what I was pointing out by saying that it has one-piece cranks. With an American BB shell, it's easy to find blinging BMX parts to put in it, since a lot of BMX bikes use the same shell.
It does have an american bottom bracket shell, that's what I was pointing out by saying that it has one-piece cranks. With an American BB shell, it's easy to find blinging BMX parts to put in it, since a lot of BMX bikes use the same shell.
don't know if it's been mentioned since the op, but just to point out that there are adapters to run a euro bb in an american bb shell, so you can run track cranks if you wish
#145
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Actually I already had, and he hasn't got back to me; but I have a feeling it actually won't be so economical, and might be quite difficult. Plus - the service for which he's reknowned can't be imported.
What are people's views on the fuji versus the bianchi pista? Are they very similar?
And I came across today the Terry Dolan bikes - any views? I liked the ride (but not really budget).
What are people's views on the fuji versus the bianchi pista? Are they very similar?
And I came across today the Terry Dolan bikes - any views? I liked the ride (but not really budget).
Originally Posted by el twe
Talk to Tony at IRO about shipping to London. That'd be your best bet.
#146
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For the women here: how important is it for a guy to ride a good looking bike? I had been thinking of the Specialised Langster, but I just don't like the look of it. And I do like riding a long and people telling me how nice my bike looks (happened today while test-riding the Bianchi and the Terry Dolan). Most people think it's ridiculous for that to be a serious concern - but did they not consider the looks when buying their car?
#147
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From: milwaukee, philly, and back, minneapolis in july
Bikes: d/a allez -trek t1
MORE updates one the pake. I've now ridden it on the track and on a long road ride. It performed well, not great, but respectably on the track. it felt solid and held a line while sprinting. wouldn't recommend it as a track specific bike, but if you want one bike to do it all it would work. and I put 140 miles on it yesterday. very comfy, rode a 45-17 (16.9 avg). nothing hurts today and nothing hurt yesterday. recommended. rode it to chicago, then did a race. i like it a lot. for the money i really like this bike. it just keeps getting better for me. a solid performer all around.
#148
Originally Posted by kilburnfixie
For the women here: how important is it for a guy to ride a good looking bike?
if you want to impress girls, i'd suggest a car. preferably a mustang or a corvette. you can always pull a quality girl with a 'vette.
#149
Originally Posted by rustang
is this a joke? girls don't give a **** about bikes and if they do, they'll know enough about them to realize that you're a ****ing toolshed long before you ever have a chance.
if you want to impress girls, i'd suggest a car. preferably a mustang or a corvette. you can always pull a quality girl with a 'vette.
if you want to impress girls, i'd suggest a car. preferably a mustang or a corvette. you can always pull a quality girl with a 'vette.
as for fujis and se's.. they are the same company.. i forget the name.. something super generic? pacific sports or something.. in philly.. they bought se racing.. bummer
#150
cab horn

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Originally Posted by sloppy robot
awesome..its true.. by asking the question.. you already lost
as for fujis and se's.. they are the same company.. i forget the name.. something super generic? pacific sports or something.. in philly.. they bought se racing.. bummer
as for fujis and se's.. they are the same company.. i forget the name.. something super generic? pacific sports or something.. in philly.. they bought se racing.. bummer




