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how the !@#$ do you get a chain pin back in?

Old 03-27-11, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by martinus View Post
Smart.
It's even smarter to know the basics of chain installation before trying one's hand on a $50 chain. Failing that, one can still be part of the smart kids' crowd by buying a masterlink instead of Rube-Goldberging a pin back in.

All things seem fine until they don't; 'seems fine' isn't a great metric for what I'd put my safety on when there are cheap and easy alternative solutions. Also, a chain doesn't care whether you're commuting or racing. Even in the commuting case I'd just as soon not be late to work or stranded even if I didn't get hurt.
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Old 03-27-11, 11:10 PM
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I pushed a pin out two nights ago, on my one and only half-link. It was the last half-link at the LBS.

After the requite foul-mouthing, I took "ye old skateboard tool".


Why? Because the screwdriver blade side had a nice taper and fit between the two sides of the outer chain link.
I pinched the skate tool in the vice laying flat, used needle-nosed pliers to hold the link, and tapped it in with a tiny hammer.

Something like this:


[not the actual link in question, this is just a hired stand-in link]
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Old 03-29-11, 08:38 AM
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i've witnessed my brother do it without a chain tool. i recall it involved a hammer and nail-punch and shocking amounts of foul language.

WHACK &*^%@$# WHACK &**&@#&*^ WHACK *(!Q@#$&* (ad nauseum.)

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Old 03-29-11, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tristen View Post
i've witnessed my brother do it without a chain tool. i recall it involved a hammer and nail-punch and shocking amounts of foul language.

WHACK &*^%@$# WHACK &**&@#&*^ WHACK *(!Q@#$&* (ad nauseum.)
Especially when the punch slips and slices open a finger. Mine is still sore from the adventure last Sunday.

And to the earlier poster who thinks chain tools prevent the pin from pushing all the way out -- not all of them (if any).
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Old 03-29-11, 05:59 PM
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I found that it was a little less infuriating if I pushed the pin in from an old chain or from the extra piece of chain left over. The other method I found is to out the pin into the center section (where you should just be able to slide it through) then take the junction that has the two little dohickies that will go on the outside (try to stay with me and my technical language) and only worry about ONE of the little dohickies! Use the chain tool to push the pin from the inner section through one of the outer sections (like almost all the way through). Then move the inner section to its correct position, sandwiched between the two dohickies, and put the side of the chain up that has the peg sticking out. Now you should be able to use the chain tool to push the pin back through all sections of the connector as long as you go slowly and softly. If you try to angrily jam it through the other sections you will likely miss and have to start all over. Let me know if you want me to make a diagram.
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Old 03-31-11, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cc700 View Post
because you are the weakest link, goodbye.

and because it's a wear item and would have to be replaced eventually anyway so why worry when you can replace it cheaply?

Is it possible, someone has NOT heard :

" A chain, is only as strong as its weakest link. " ?

...or it somehow, does not apply to bike chains ???

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Old 03-31-11, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wjphillips View Post
No, No, No. Do not re-use chain pins! If you remove the chain pin with a chain tool you must buy a replacement pin. If you reuse the pin, you will compromise the integrity of the pin/chain and it will likely snap. I hope you you won't be out of the saddle pedaling when it breaks.

How do I know this? I did it and it happened to me. Luckily I wasn't pedaling too hard but nonetheless, I messed up my knees and elbows pretty bad.

Are you talking about multi-speed shimano pins ... 8, 9, 10 ?

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Old 03-31-11, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
This whole discussion makes no sense to me. If you buy a new chain, it will have extra links that you can remove and save for a rainy day. If there is a problem such as described above, you can simply discard the faulty link set (one inner + one outer), and replace it with another set that is in good condition.

Now, that IS the correct answer .
( nice to see, someone weigh all the factors, time, wear, etc ... even budget... to come up with the *easy* solution. )

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Old 03-31-11, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by scruggle View Post
It's even smarter to know the basics of chain installation before trying one's hand on a $50 chain. Failing that, one can still be part of the smart kids' crowd by buying a masterlink instead of Rube-Goldberging a pin back in.

All things seem fine until they don't; 'seems fine' isn't a great metric for what I'd put my safety on when there are cheap and easy alternative solutions. Also, a chain doesn't care whether you're commuting or racing. Even in the commuting case I'd just as soon not be late to work or stranded even if I didn't get hurt.
I *think* he wants to "cheat" the system ... he did something dumb, now he wants to fix it, quickly and cheaply. ( Can't blame him tooo much, we all been there... )

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Old 12-06-11, 10:08 AM
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Phew!!! I finally got the pin inside. The toughest part was to hold the pin in place! This is what I did. I dipped the tip of the pin in puncture glue and placed it on the hole, left it for few seconds. Then placed the chain in the chain tool, rotate and there it was
What a relief
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Old 12-06-11, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by martinus View Post
I *think* he wants to "cheat" the system ... he did something dumb, now he wants to fix it, quickly and cheaply. ( Can't blame him tooo much, we all been there... )

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Hey, guy, stop putting those dots at the end of your posts. It's really ****ing annoying.


Carry on y'all.

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Old 12-06-11, 02:58 PM
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Use grease to hold the pin in line with the hole then carefully use the chain tool and make sure the pin stays in line.
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