View Poll Results: What will it be hotshot?
Campy Record Pista/Record Pista



21
36.21%
DA Octalink 7710/7710



10
17.24%
DA 7600/Sugino Superlap



1
1.72%
DA 7600/Hatta R9400



2
3.45%
DA 7600/7610



5
8.62%
Sugino Grand Mighty/Superlap



0
0%
Sugino Grand Mighty/Hatta R9400



5
8.62%
Sugino Grand Mighty/DA 7610



3
5.17%
If the crank takes a Phil, that's what I'll use



5
8.62%
Other



6
10.34%
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the winning drivetrain
#1
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From: Salem, MA
Bikes: Land Shark, Level Professional, Tsunami singlespeed, Giant Reign 1
the winning drivetrain
Following in line with my previous poll about wheels, consider the following hypothetical situation:
You have been chosen to participate in a contest. You will be paid an exorbitant amount of money for something along the lines of every watt of power that you can produce. First they ask you to pick whatever bottom bracket that you'd like to use, but they ask you not to make it too hard on them if you can.
You also have to do a press conference where you'll have to explain your choice.
Note: If you're going Phil, do you want the steel, Ti, or proprietary Ti? Also, like the previous thread this is just for kicks.
You have been chosen to participate in a contest. You will be paid an exorbitant amount of money for something along the lines of every watt of power that you can produce. First they ask you to pick whatever bottom bracket that you'd like to use, but they ask you not to make it too hard on them if you can.
You also have to do a press conference where you'll have to explain your choice.
Note: If you're going Phil, do you want the steel, Ti, or proprietary Ti? Also, like the previous thread this is just for kicks.
Last edited by sers; 09-22-06 at 01:50 AM.
#4
jack of one or two trades
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Does it go Crank/BB, or BB/crank? I'm not familiar enough with bottom bracket and crank product #'s to tell.
#5
or tarckeemoon, depending
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: the pesto of cities
Bikes: Davidson Impulse, Merckx Titanium AX, Bruce Gordon Rock & Road, Cross Check custom build, On-One Il Pomino, Shawver Cycles cross, Zion 737, Mercian Vincitore, Brompton S1L, Charge Juicer
The only "nice" crankset I've ridden is Sugino 75. If I'm paying I don't think I'd want anything nicer for the street.
#6
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From: Lawrence
Bikes: 1994 Paramount conversion
Originally Posted by travsi
i don't know that much about watt producing; but doesn't
that have to do with the rider and not the bike or components?
if i was choosing a drivetrain purely on being efficient, i would
go for dura ace 10.
that have to do with the rider and not the bike or components?
if i was choosing a drivetrain purely on being efficient, i would
go for dura ace 10.
#7
ganbatte!
Joined: Aug 2004
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From: nyc
Bikes: '06 Vanilla touring, '09 Vanilla cx, Zanconato cx, Moots Psychlo-X RSL prototype, Nagasawa track, Kalavinka track, Black Cat 29er, Cannondale Rize 2 26er, Serotta CRL Legend
After disassembling a DA cup/cone bottom bracket, I'm sorta down on them. A quality BB can optimally fit 11 balls per side. DA BB's use 9 balls per side in a huge retainer, doing a lesser job of load distribution throughout the cup. In theory, you could chuck the retainer and use 11 bearings without, but the stock 9 is somewhat disappointing. Any retainer will lose some bearing space, but the size of the DA retainer is pretty egregious...
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#8
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From: Salem, MA
Bikes: Land Shark, Level Professional, Tsunami singlespeed, Giant Reign 1
Originally Posted by marqueemoon
The only "nice" crankset I've ridden is Sugino 75. If I'm paying I don't think I'd want anything nicer for the street.
#10
or tarckeemoon, depending
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From: the pesto of cities
Bikes: Davidson Impulse, Merckx Titanium AX, Bruce Gordon Rock & Road, Cross Check custom build, On-One Il Pomino, Shawver Cycles cross, Zion 737, Mercian Vincitore, Brompton S1L, Charge Juicer
Originally Posted by sers
nope you're not paying, and you get to keep it after the contest ends
#14
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Joined: Mar 2002
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From: Bend, OR
Bikes: American Breezer mtb, American Classic ti road bike w/SRAM Force and XO, Crotch Rocket, SOMA 69'er w/XX-1 mtb, Handsome Shop Bike w/700c wheels. Bianchi SS 'cross
Given the parameters, the listed options lack imagination, so "Other" should be checked (Edco, SKS, Topline, Cook Bros, Stronglight, American Classic, TA, etc.).
#15
cab horn

Joined: Jun 2004
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From: Toronto
Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione
right and wrong. Power production depends only on the mechanical efficiency of the drivetrain.
#16
shoot up or shut up.

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From: colorado springs, co
Bikes: yes please.
octalink is way stiffer and is going to transfer more power than any squaretaper interface can ever dream of. hands down. outboard bearing two piece cranks seem to be superior to octalink. the new d-a is ugly, but works best, and weighs the least. except maybe the newer carbon fsa stuff.
but all that sums up to phil/deep v really though.
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i ride campy on the track though. boing!
but all that sums up to phil/deep v really though.
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i ride campy on the track though. boing!
Last edited by isotopesope; 09-23-06 at 03:22 PM.
#19
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From: Salem, MA
Bikes: Land Shark, Level Professional, Tsunami singlespeed, Giant Reign 1
Originally Posted by gruppo
Given the parameters, the listed options lack imagination, so "Other" should be checked (Edco, SKS, Topline, Cook Bros, Stronglight, American Classic, TA, etc.).
the poll was designed with 2 factors in mind. after scouring the track photos at cycling news, it seemed to me that the lion's share of bikes were equipped with da 7710, followed by grand mighty, and then campy record. multiple sources have told me that da 7600 square taper is the overwhelming favorite crank of Keirin racers. secondly, i was interested in seeing how cup and cone bottom brackets fared against sealed ones. i'm a bit surprised that they haven't garnered more votes.






