What's really important..
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What's really important..
I came across an interesting article at biketechreview regarding how bicycle wheel design relates to performance. The long and short of it is:
Roughly, the average rider power requirements on a course with a zero net elevation gain is broken down into:
1) 60% rider drag
2) 12% rolling resistance
3) 8% frame drag
4) 8% wheel drag
5) 8% bike/rider inertia.
6) .5% wheel inertia forces
~3% attributed to drivetrain and component flexing
I'm by no means suggesting this is gospel, but I find it to be an interesting perspective on what really matters. when bike and rider (sans wheels) are treated as one even a few pounds of weight make a pretty miniscule difference....until you're climbing.
Roughly, the average rider power requirements on a course with a zero net elevation gain is broken down into:
1) 60% rider drag
2) 12% rolling resistance
3) 8% frame drag
4) 8% wheel drag
5) 8% bike/rider inertia.
6) .5% wheel inertia forces
~3% attributed to drivetrain and component flexing
I'm by no means suggesting this is gospel, but I find it to be an interesting perspective on what really matters. when bike and rider (sans wheels) are treated as one even a few pounds of weight make a pretty miniscule difference....until you're climbing.
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Originally Posted by sers
2) 12% rolling resistance
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Originally Posted by LóFarkas
Sounds too high. Of course, if by "average rider" he means a guy using an MTB with knobbies doing 12mph, then okay. A guy on 700*23 slicks doing 18mph will probably not have rolling resistance that high.
Also, I'm not a physicist, but I would guess that rolling resistance decreases very little as speed increases. I think that since drag becomes much more pronounced at higher speeds you can't tell that the rolling resistance is there, but I think it still is. Just thinking out loud here.
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^^^
Thing is, rolling resistance is directly proportional to speed. Drag grows exponentially (2x speed=> 2x roling res., but 4x aero drag) So at higher speeds rolling resistance becomes lower as a % part of the whole resistance package.
Thing is, rolling resistance is directly proportional to speed. Drag grows exponentially (2x speed=> 2x roling res., but 4x aero drag) So at higher speeds rolling resistance becomes lower as a % part of the whole resistance package.
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that QR lever isn't that aero...they're kind of angled like elevators of an airplane...maybe that puts the rolling resistance to 11.8% instead of 12%...then again normal force would exert equal amounts right back...
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Originally Posted by pidda
even though the course was zero net elevation, wouldn't it matter if it was hilly or completely flat?





