Give out some pics when you get that joint. I'd like to see how it all comes out.

I mean if you wanted to go cheap, i think you could get a ridable bike for less than that but if your happy with it when you get then that rad.


p.s. i dont know if youve gotten a vasectomy yet, but a gel sadlle always was a great start to one, IMHO

If the frame fits, and it is in good shape, it sounds like a better deal than buying a new Fuji Track.

When i say is it worth it, i mean... is this a good deal? and should i get anything different? cause i can change things in and out by nov 4.

i was going to build it, but i don't realy have a place to do it right now, and not really sure what i need for tools, i have a tool set, but nothing bike specific. and if i buy from bikes not bombs, i am able to use there shop and tools, and get 10% off there stuff.

Def. go for double wall rims, even if that means getting used ones. If the whel is true and the bearing spins nicely, it'll be fine. Single wall rims are the lowest of low end.

Are any of these a better deal, i need something for comuting, and i cheaper the better, if it is going to hold up to everything:

• Dawes lightning sst
• mercier kilo tt
• motobecane messenger
• Windsor the Hour

(all found on ebay)


and i am looking at http://www.thebikebiz.com/product_p/bk-trk-fuji01.htm , they have new fuji track bikes for 450.

is 400 for the one that is going to be built, way too much for what i am getting.

That bikes is minimal $550 i am trying to go for under $300.

im just tempting you with what you could have. and think about it, if you bought the IRO, you wouldn't have to spend another penny on a new bike. The IRO will last forever; unlike the used bike which will need upgrades, maintenance, and will sometimes fail on you.

I bought a decent used conversion with a suicide hub for $125 beginning this school year. Its a beautiful lugged SR frame with crap components. The chainring is outta shape and makes highs and lows in the tension of the chain. Pissing me off. Gonna have to drop another $50 for a new chainring and chain. Anyways, its been really good to me. I ride it everywhere. But I've been thinking, what if i just saved a little more and got an IRO. I mean for me to upgrade my conversion with real track wheels, better pedals, real bullhorns, new cog, lockring and chainring, headset and LBS costs, in the end the money comes out to what the IRO would have cost. So why am i spending all this money to upgrade my crappy bike that has an already heavy frame, when i coulda just bought a new one with a new school strong and light frame and saved all taht time.

In the end, the money will balance out. Except with a conversion, you would have spent more time and gotten a lower quality product.

BUT HEY! we ride fixies, we know its not about efficiency (otherwise we'd be roadies), its about the RIDE and JOURNEY. So think of getting this bike as a journey, you're gonna come out short on cash and time compared to those ppl taht bought their way in, but you'll also come out with lots of knowledge.

its good to get a bike and work on it, makes it special and your own. Even if there are defects, just think of them as quirks your bike has that the expensive ones dont.

I am not doubting that the bike is not great, if i knew it wouldn't get stolen, or trashed, i would so go for that, but several of my friends have had their bikes stolen and if that happens, i don't want it to be something nice like that!

boston doesn't have that much of a problem with bike theft - get a u-lock (any kind will do in boston, really, but i like the krypto evolution minis), learn how to lock up your bike properly (there's thousands of threads on these forums about locking up), and you'll be fine. (EDIT: and if it's possible at all, keep your bike INSIDE at night! if you have an apartment, think of getting hooks on the wall to hang it up... if you live in a dorm, most dorm closets have room for a bike, and i've even heard of dudes getting rack raisers and keeping their bikes under their beds... letting your bike live outside is bike abuse!)

as for the bikes not bombs deal? what it comes down to is that you paid the going rate for what you're getting. you're not getting ripped off at all. however, you could do it for a lot cheaper on your own. that's all i was getting at... for my first conversion, i ended up spending a little less than 300 dollars, and i ended up with a really decent bike for the money because i did it myself, didn't mind shopping around for bargains, and was willing to wait for stuff. does that make sense?

happy shopping!