newbie suggestions / help
#51
Give out some pics when you get that joint. I'd like to see how it all comes out.
I mean if you wanted to go cheap, i think you could get a ridable bike for less than that but if your happy with it when you get then that rad.
p.s. i dont know if youve gotten a vasectomy yet, but a gel sadlle always was a great start to one, IMHO
I mean if you wanted to go cheap, i think you could get a ridable bike for less than that but if your happy with it when you get then that rad.
p.s. i dont know if youve gotten a vasectomy yet, but a gel sadlle always was a great start to one, IMHO
#52
jack of one or two trades
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Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Originally Posted by viper_04649
ok, so i just went to bikes not bombs and ordered* a fixed
so here is is for $400
Is this worth it?
so here is is for $400
- a used 57 cm Fuji track frame (kinda old, bit looks ok blue and chrome)
- some used drop bars, being wrapped with cinelli black tape
- Track pedals with metal toe clips
- panaracer Pasella tires (i think 1.25")
- Front wheel: either a used double wall or new single
- Back: Formula hub + sun M13II rim
- cloud 9 gel seat
- cross brake
- 42 x 16 gear ratio
Is this worth it?
#53
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From: Boston
Bikes: Royal H Rando, IRO Mark V Pro, Redline Monocog 29er
Originally Posted by john_and_off
whether or not it's worth it is up to you. it's not the same value (or knowledge) you could get by putting together your own bike, but it'll certainly be a nice, reliable ride (with some decent components). have fun!
i was going to build it, but i don't realy have a place to do it right now, and not really sure what i need for tools, i have a tool set, but nothing bike specific. and if i buy from bikes not bombs, i am able to use there shop and tools, and get 10% off there stuff.
#55
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From: Boston
Bikes: Royal H Rando, IRO Mark V Pro, Redline Monocog 29er
Originally Posted by viper_04649
ok, so i just went to bikes not bombs and ordered* a fixed
so here is is for $400
so here is is for $400
- a used 57 cm Fuji track frame (kinda old, bit looks ok blue and chrome)
- some used drop bars, being wrapped with cinelli black tape
- Track pedals with metal toe clips
- panaracer Pasella tires (i think 1.25")
- Front wheel: either a used double wall or new single
- Back: Formula hub + sun M13II rim
- cloud 9 gel seat
- cross brake
- 42 x 16 gear ratio
and i am looking at https://www.thebikebiz.com/product_p/bk-trk-fuji01.htm , they have new fuji track bikes for 450.
is 400 for the one that is going to be built, way too much for what i am getting.
Last edited by viper_04649; 10-27-06 at 01:22 PM.
#56
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From: Philly
Bikes: 56cm IRO Mark V
#57
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From: Boston
Bikes: Royal H Rando, IRO Mark V Pro, Redline Monocog 29er
Originally Posted by sunv
#58
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im just tempting you with what you could have. and think about it, if you bought the IRO, you wouldn't have to spend another penny on a new bike. The IRO will last forever; unlike the used bike which will need upgrades, maintenance, and will sometimes fail on you.
I bought a decent used conversion with a suicide hub for $125 beginning this school year. Its a beautiful lugged SR frame with crap components. The chainring is outta shape and makes highs and lows in the tension of the chain. Pissing me off. Gonna have to drop another $50 for a new chainring and chain. Anyways, its been really good to me. I ride it everywhere. But I've been thinking, what if i just saved a little more and got an IRO. I mean for me to upgrade my conversion with real track wheels, better pedals, real bullhorns, new cog, lockring and chainring, headset and LBS costs, in the end the money comes out to what the IRO would have cost. So why am i spending all this money to upgrade my crappy bike that has an already heavy frame, when i coulda just bought a new one with a new school strong and light frame and saved all taht time.
In the end, the money will balance out. Except with a conversion, you would have spent more time and gotten a lower quality product.
BUT HEY! we ride fixies, we know its not about efficiency (otherwise we'd be roadies), its about the RIDE and JOURNEY. So think of getting this bike as a journey, you're gonna come out short on cash and time compared to those ppl taht bought their way in, but you'll also come out with lots of knowledge.
its good to get a bike and work on it, makes it special and your own. Even if there are defects, just think of them as quirks your bike has that the expensive ones dont.
I bought a decent used conversion with a suicide hub for $125 beginning this school year. Its a beautiful lugged SR frame with crap components. The chainring is outta shape and makes highs and lows in the tension of the chain. Pissing me off. Gonna have to drop another $50 for a new chainring and chain. Anyways, its been really good to me. I ride it everywhere. But I've been thinking, what if i just saved a little more and got an IRO. I mean for me to upgrade my conversion with real track wheels, better pedals, real bullhorns, new cog, lockring and chainring, headset and LBS costs, in the end the money comes out to what the IRO would have cost. So why am i spending all this money to upgrade my crappy bike that has an already heavy frame, when i coulda just bought a new one with a new school strong and light frame and saved all taht time.
In the end, the money will balance out. Except with a conversion, you would have spent more time and gotten a lower quality product.
BUT HEY! we ride fixies, we know its not about efficiency (otherwise we'd be roadies), its about the RIDE and JOURNEY. So think of getting this bike as a journey, you're gonna come out short on cash and time compared to those ppl taht bought their way in, but you'll also come out with lots of knowledge.
its good to get a bike and work on it, makes it special and your own. Even if there are defects, just think of them as quirks your bike has that the expensive ones dont.
#59
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From: Boston
Bikes: Royal H Rando, IRO Mark V Pro, Redline Monocog 29er
Originally Posted by sunv
im just tempting you with what you could have. and think about it, if you bought the IRO, you wouldn't have to spend another penny on a new bike. The IRO will last forever; unlike the used bike which will need upgrades, maintenance, and will sometimes fail on you.
I bought a decent used conversion with a suicide hub for $125 beginning this school year. Its a beautiful lugged SR frame with crap components. The chainring is outta shape and makes highs and lows in the tension of the chain. Pissing me off. Gonna have to drop another $50 for a new chainring and chain. Anyways, its been really good to me. I ride it everywhere. But I've been thinking, what if i just saved a little more and got an IRO. I mean for me to upgrade my conversion with real track wheels, better pedals, real bullhorns, new cog, lockring and chainring, headset and LBS costs, in the end the money comes out to what the IRO would have cost. So why am i spending all this money to upgrade my crappy bike that has an already heavy frame, when i coulda just bought a new one with a new school strong and light frame and saved all taht time.
In the end, the money will balance out. Except with a conversion, you would have spent more time and gotten a lower quality product.
BUT HEY! we ride fixies, we know its not about efficiency (otherwise we'd be roadies), its about the RIDE and JOURNEY. So think of getting this bike as a journey, you're gonna come out short on cash and time compared to those ppl taht bought their way in, but you'll also come out with lots of knowledge.
its good to get a bike and work on it, makes it special and your own. Even if there are defects, just think of them as quirks your bike has that the expensive ones dont.
I bought a decent used conversion with a suicide hub for $125 beginning this school year. Its a beautiful lugged SR frame with crap components. The chainring is outta shape and makes highs and lows in the tension of the chain. Pissing me off. Gonna have to drop another $50 for a new chainring and chain. Anyways, its been really good to me. I ride it everywhere. But I've been thinking, what if i just saved a little more and got an IRO. I mean for me to upgrade my conversion with real track wheels, better pedals, real bullhorns, new cog, lockring and chainring, headset and LBS costs, in the end the money comes out to what the IRO would have cost. So why am i spending all this money to upgrade my crappy bike that has an already heavy frame, when i coulda just bought a new one with a new school strong and light frame and saved all taht time.
In the end, the money will balance out. Except with a conversion, you would have spent more time and gotten a lower quality product.
BUT HEY! we ride fixies, we know its not about efficiency (otherwise we'd be roadies), its about the RIDE and JOURNEY. So think of getting this bike as a journey, you're gonna come out short on cash and time compared to those ppl taht bought their way in, but you'll also come out with lots of knowledge.
its good to get a bike and work on it, makes it special and your own. Even if there are defects, just think of them as quirks your bike has that the expensive ones dont.
#60
Originally Posted by viper_04649
I am not doubting that the bike is not great, if i knew it wouldn't get stolen, or trashed, i would so go for that, but several of my friends have had their bikes stolen and if that happens, i don't want it to be something nice like that!
as for the bikes not bombs deal? what it comes down to is that you paid the going rate for what you're getting. you're not getting ripped off at all. however, you could do it for a lot cheaper on your own. that's all i was getting at... for my first conversion, i ended up spending a little less than 300 dollars, and i ended up with a really decent bike for the money because i did it myself, didn't mind shopping around for bargains, and was willing to wait for stuff. does that make sense?
happy shopping!




